Will you buy a New FN P90 or P2000?

[The Grand Inquisitor]

If you will buy one, tell why, and if not, also tell why not.


Personally I am putting the purchase of an AUG I have wanted for a long time on the shelf for a while to buy a P2000 when they become available.

I have been clamoring for quite a while now that companies have not been bringing any new rifle formats to the market for a long time now, and since FN is taking a big step towards BRINGING their NEW technology to the consumers I am more than happy to support that company with my dollars.

Secondly, I am a firm believer in the bullpup design philosophy and I would be more than happy to bring another bullpup into my collection to keep my 86S company.

Also, years ago I saw a few replica's of the French FAMAS rifle and ever since then I have been dying to get one, and I have never even seen one for sale. The sad fact is is that there are some semiauto FAMAS' in the country, but their owners have no desire to sell them because they know they'll never see one again. The FAMAS was lost to foolish gun control laws and import bans, and if these new FN rifles get caught up in that bull?????, I want to have one in my collection.

Lastly, I will get the P2000 first, because I like the design of it and because it is chambered in 5.56. Within a few years I would also like to get the P90, but because it is chambered in 5.7 I could not afford to shoot it much at all.

 

[beerslurpy]

Yeah count me in, though I am not making any new purchases until Stewart is decided.

 

[viking87]

I'm gonna have to wait 'till I have the money (and 'till I get some other purchases out of the way first), but I'm really starting to like the looks of the F2000. Compact, widely available magazines, and some pretty nifty features. Yep, it's on the wish list.

 

[Yowza]

I wouldn't mind getting the 2000, but I don't really have any interest in the P90. If I could get a short barreled version, I might want one more.

Rick

 

[Cawdor]

I'm interested. My biggest reservation is the cost of the ammunition. $17 per box is the best I've seen. If the gun is around $1300 and ammunition can be purchased for about $10 per box, I'll probably buy one, though it is not expected to reach the market before early 2006.

 

[WillBrayJr]

The FN P90 doesn't hold any interest with me.

 

[DMK]

I like the P2000 with it's 5.56 chambering and AR15 magazine compatability. It seems to me like a fun rifle that has some useful purpose.

I wouldn't buy a P90. While it certainly has it's place in service and duty applications, I can't see it being worth the price for the gun or the ammo with it's limited versatility.

 

[beerslurpy]

With current laws, the P90 is absolutely useless to civilians because it will be neither compact not full auto. The FN F2000 is going to be the same size, with a better cartridge and better magazine/ammo availability. I just hope it has a better gas system than the AR15.

 

[Boats]

They can keep their bullpups, I am much more interested in a semiauto SCAR. The arrival of the son of the FNC is something to be rejoiced.

 

[PMDW]

If I could get a short barreled version, I might want one more.

Saw + Form 1 = SBR.

 

[bamawrx]

No SBR in Alabama, so no interest from me as the 16" is just plain silly.

 

[admar2]

Saw + Form 1 = SBR.

not to be nitpicky, but,

FORM 1 + Saw = SBR.

 

[Cortland]

admar2, you raise a good point. We'll all know that a semi-auto rifle and a full-auto parts kit sitting next to each other constitute a machine gun in the eyes of the ATF. Then by extension, wouldn't a saw and a rifle similarly constitute an SBR?

 

[PMDW]

No SBR in Alabama, so no interest from me as the 16" is just plain silly.

Move.

not to be nitpicky, but,

FORM 1 + Saw = SBR.

Wha? That's what I said.

 

[Cortland]

Wha? That's what I said.

Form 1 + Saw ... in the eyes of the ATF, those operations are NOT commutative (that means the order is important)

 

[tc300mag1]

Maybe, maybe not, but not all that interested

 

[PMDW]

Form 1 + Saw ... in the eyes of the ATF, those operations are NOT commutative (that means the order is important)

2 + 1, 1 + 2, you get the same answer.

I never said you'd cut before you got approved, just that the two together equaled an SBR. You added the part about getting approved first, it was implied in my post.

Is there something you want to get off your chest?

 

[beerslurpy]

admar2, you raise a good point. We'll all know that a semi-auto rifle and a full-auto parts kit sitting next to each other constitute a machine gun in the eyes of the ATF. Then by extension, wouldn't a saw and a rifle similarly constitute an SBR?

No, thanks to Thompson Center Arms Company vs United States (1991).

The appeals court ruled thusly:

The question in this case is who "makes" a NFA "firearm" and therefore is liable for the tax Thompson, when it separately manufactures the Contender pistol and carbine conversion kit, or the person possessing both a pistol and kit, when and if he actually assembles a 10 inch rifle? In our view, the National Firearms Act answers, "the latter."

 

[Hkmp5sd]

I will take curtain #1...

P90 w/ SBR stamp.

 

[rbernie]

since FN is taking a big step towards BRINGING their NEW technology to the consumers I am more than happy to support that company with my dollars.

That's admirable, but right now I'm in a place where I'm not much interested in new technology AT ALL.

I'd much rather spend my coin learning how to use the technology I've got rather than spending it to buy newer technology that I likely still won't be able to effectively use.

 

[SapperLeader]

It doesn’t do much for me, plus I don’t want to take the time to learn the new technology. I look forward to pictures and range reports though, from members that do buy one. Im just doing my part to live vicariously through others

 

[WhoKnowsWho]

If I wanted to buy everything I wanted, I probably would be out of organs by now to sell on the black market...

 

[Glock Glockler]

How does a bull-pup design with forward eject make a gun so complicated that one cannot use it? What about excellent ergonomics? The learning curves on that are impossible

 

[DougCxx]

The 2000 scares me--I have a prejudice against pullpup centerfires.
-In the event that the breech splits, I want it as far away from my head as possible.
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The P90 is cool in a techno way, but unless they cut the price by about 50% and chamber it in 17HMR, I won't be buying.

In the long run I think the ammo would be the absolute killer cost involved in owning such a gun. As far as I've heard, no major military organizations want anything to do on a major scale with either the FN or the HK teeny-weeny-bullet guns.
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[Daemon688]

The P90 has appeal to me but the ammo is expensive. The 2000 looks like a better choice due to ammo and magazine compatability. About 3 weeks ago I was about ready to buy a M4gery but instead I now have $1000 stashed away towards that F2000. About the only thing that will change my mind right now is if a new AWB is likely to be passed soon.