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Wilson Shok Buff for 1911

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by FEATHERWEIGHT, Nov 26, 2006.

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  1. FEATHERWEIGHT

    FEATHERWEIGHT Member

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    Are the Wilson Shok Buffs any good? Are these device necessary or worthwhile if you do not shoot competition? Do they change accuracy or reliability any? Would you put one on a weapon that may save your life or is it a product for high volume target shooters only? Thanks
     
  2. GoRon

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    Personal opinion, forget about them.

    I have seen guns fail to work because they have them, never saw a gun fail because it didn't.
     
  3. Powder_Burn

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    I've wondered about this for a while. The shok-buff reduces wear and tear but reduces rearward slide movement by 1/8" or so. I personally haven't found that they impact reliability. FWIW, Les Baer ships Thunder Ranch pistols w/o a shok-buff whereas the rest of the guns include them. Seems to infer that no shok-buff = higher reliability or that Thunder Ranch does not want them. As long as I can get 100% reliability w/a shok-buff, I see no reason to change.
     
  4. 10-Ring

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    When I first got my 1st Colt, I bought some...thought it would help...WRONG! Turned out it hampered reliability. Once I realized that, I took it out & haven't looked at them since. Now if I ever go to a 45 super, I might revisit those little buggers, but for now, they stay put away.
     
  5. Black Majik

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    My personal opinion but...

    There are 2 places for shok-buffs. On the racks at gunstores, and in the trashcans.

    They may reduce wear, but otherwise theres no use for them. They prevent slide movement rearward in slidelock, so you can't slingshot the gun to chamber a round. Any shockbuffs I had in any gun ended up straight in the trashcan.

    Answer to a non-existant problem.
     
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    J. M. Browning never used them in his design. I don't.

    I am a Smith and have removed all kinds of aftermarket parts to make a gun designed by him work again. Hard to beat a stock 1911 made to his specs.
     
  7. Chuck R.

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    Black Majik,

    I finally did find a use for buffer's in my 5" Baer. I drop one in between the slide and the barrel hood when disassembling the pistol so I don't have to use the wrench.

    I've got close to 11K through the buffer I'm using now. :D

    Chuck
     
  8. Mad Magyar

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    Not sure how reliable this is, but one gun writer mentioned that Bill Wilson himself isn't a firm believer in them...However, he makes them & will sell them to anyone....I believe the consensus is that they won't hurt anything on 5" barrels, like on my Sistemas, but might have an effect on the stroke cycle on shorter barrels...BTW, I use them and when you see the pounding they take; it makes you wonder....:rolleyes:
     
  9. 10X

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    no buffers

    I agree with many of the comments above. The buffers will affect reliability.
    The slide doesn't travel the full distance back under recoil. This can be a problem in some guns. One some I could not get the slide to release without physically pushing down the slide stop. Why, the slide wouldn't go back for enough to cam the slide stop down. The second issue I have had is the buffers will sometimes mushroom after use. This can drag on the slide and cause failures to eject and failures to feed. Honestly, I don't see the need with most loads or calibers.
     
  10. JoeHatley

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    I use them in all my "range only" 1911s. Never had one cause a problem. Not even those that were left in too long, and started to come apart in the gun.

    They may or may not accomplish anything, but I've always considered them cheap insurance, and have used them for almost 20 years.

    Joe
     
  11. Majic

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    Another one of the brillant ideas to lighten the weight of your pocket.
     
  12. Phenom

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    Shokbuffs are useful for cast and aluminum frames. They're more like 1cm thick and I've had no problems with them. If you're going to put alot of rounds downrange then by all means use them. Just remove them when you clean and lube your gun.
     
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    I've used the kings buffer with a 18.5 lb recoil spring in my gold cup for years. I shoot full power loads in it.
    [​IMG]
     
  14. Ala Dan

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    I don't use 'em in any of my 1911's; as I find these pistols to be just fine
    without them~!;) :D
     
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