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Win model 70 Prison Rifle

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Greatfullded, Jan 8, 2021.

  1. Greatfullded

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    Hello.. I bought this rifle back in the 80s and I bought it as a prison rifle, the only thing I can see that makes this different is this has a yellow sticker on the right side of the stock that sez ( State of California CCI and 64XX ), on the right side also has etched on receiver CCI 64XX.
    I guess the CCI stands for California Correctional Institution.
    Anyone have a opinion

    Here is a couple pics of rifle
     

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  2. bigmike45

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    Good looking piece of history! What caliber is it?
     
  3. Micro

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    I have opinion. I I think it's a cool piece, and very good looking rifle.

    Don't know what CCI stands for, but your guess is as good as any.
     
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  4. Greatfullded

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    Hello Rowland Yes its a cool piece and a great conversation piece too but my guess on the CCI would be consistent with a nicer way of saying its a Prison.
    it has in big letters State of California so CCI to me would mean California Correctional Institution -- again a nicer way to say Prison.
    The Caliber is 30-06 and has Weaver 4X scope which is correct.
     
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  5. ApacheCoTodd

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    Short barrel and Safari sights? I call that *different* too.

    Cool rifle. Did it come with that scope?


    Todd.
     
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  6. DocRock

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    Parkerized finish? What a cool rifle! Love it.
     
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  7. Greatfullded

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    You guys see all the different stuff is on there... I don't know anything abt the model 70s, I just bought this as a neat peace...
    I said earlier that this had a weaver scope.. I was wrong... I just looked at it again.. its a Redfield 4X Tele screen... square screen .
    still would like more info on this... I know the parkerized finish is unique...short barrel and safari sights is unique too.. which replies are saying.. I didn't know that..
     
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  8. DukeConnor

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    I could use that front sight hood
     
  9. Greatfullded

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    I bet you can but if I gave it to you.. then I will be knocking at your front door saying " I sure can use that site hood " lol

    Question is the site hood hard to come by??
     
  10. ApacheCoTodd

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    Generally speaking, when a fella stops to ask you if he can buy the headlight bezels on the old truck in front of your house - you can bet that sure as baby rabbits; headlight bezels for trucks like the one in front of your house are thin on the ground.:)

    Todd.
     
  11. BigBlue 94

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    Park finish and Monte Carlo stock stand out to me. And the bent bolt handle.

    Them redfield Tele-view scopes are sweet. Ive got a 3x9 on a 10/22.
     
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    "The man with no eyes" approves.
     
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  13. Reloadron

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    Pretty cool little rifle. That is exactly the type of rifle I am attracted to, it has a certain lure to it. As to the number it's like a rack number or plant account number for keeping track of prison or correctional institution property. My brother's Colt SP1 rifle has a little round brass tag with a number on it. They (whoever they is) super glued it to the stock. Again, really nice short and handy bolt gun. Enjoy it.

    Ron
     
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    I like it. I particularly like the express sights ... although to use them you'd have to pull the scope and base. If the sights are high enough, I might be tempted to replace the base and rings with a Leupold QR set so the scope would be optional. But that's just me.
     
  15. Greatfullded

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    Ty for everyones opinion on this and what they see as different... like I said I bought this as a prison rifle.. but that's all I knew abt it except the CCI tags and etched CCI # on the receiver, the other things abt it as a lot of you said is different.. Legionnaire sez the express sights is different... I looked at a lot of the model 70s and like none of them had sites but straight line barrel no sites.
     
  16. gotboostvr

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    Yeah, iron sights aren't super common anymore on modern rifles.
     
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  17. stillquietvoice

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    That's a fine looking g rifle, doesn't look like its been shot much either.

    We come to the forum.
     
  18. Greatfullded

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    Ty Stillquietvoice… guess since this was a prison rifle.. and not WAR.. then this was shot very little in service... I only shot it a couple times in about 32 years I had
    this rifle.. and its been sitting in my safe, the condition is like 99%+
     
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    I was having much the same thought.
     
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    Made for those times when a particular problem has to be eliminated . It's not like they made a run of them, just took a letter head to Winchester or was local gunsmith made. I'm betting it was a San Quentin order.
     
  21. Riomouse911

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    CCI is the prison in Tehachapi, which is in the low mountains S/E of Bakersfield.

    There was, back in the day, plenty of room for an escapee to roam, and lots of black bears in the area, so the State ordering such a rifle for either purpose at CCI makes perfect sense.

    Stay safe.
     
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  22. Greatfullded

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    Ty Riomouse. The prison in Tehachapi makes a lot of sense and ur right it is called CCI but it still stands for Calif correctional institution. I should try and write to Winchester and see if they can give me any documents that can comfirm this. This is why I wanted to come here and get as much info from all of you good folks, im learning day by day abt my rifle.. since the late 80s I only knew it was a prison rifle but didn't know its origin or anything else, now I have 1 of the missing pieces.... This was from Tehachapi Prison.

    Anyone else have 2 cents abt this or has any knowledge I would appreciate it. I know there are experts out there.
    Ty
     
  23. Dave DeLaurant

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    A couple of prison rifle tidbits:

    For a very, very short time in the 1930s, my dad served as a guard at a Nebraska reformatory farm. He was stationed in a tower with two weapons: a 1903 Springfield and a 1897 Winchester shotgun. He never told me whether the 97 was the special riot model or something more standard.

    In the 1980s my wife's sister was married to a California State prison guard, who worked at various prisons including Folsom and Corcoran. He mentioned the guards at the boundary posts were armed with Ruger Mini-14s. One time he described how the guards could often tell when a fight was about to happen by the movements of prisoners around the yard. Occasionally they would notice one of the likely participants looking toward the guard tower beforehand as if to say "aren't you going to break this up?"
     
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  24. Greatfullded

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    Ty for the tidbits Dave : My guess there were lots of Mini 14s in the later years., my guess my rifle came from a earlier time.
     
  25. Laphroaig

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    Good luck contacting Winchester. They've been sold 2 or 3 times since that rifle was made.

    Some random thoughts. Starting in 1964, the receivers and bolt handles were parkerized. It looks like the barrel is also, which wasn't normal. Also, M70's in that era came with open sights as standard equipment.

    The Redfields with the rectangular ocular and objective were called "Widefields". I'd say they started that model in the late 60's early 70's.
     
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