Discussion in 'Firearms Research' started by chuckster m, Oct 23, 2011.
If the 100 was chambered in 358, it must be a rare bird indeed. I've been a 358 fan for years and have never heard of one. A search for "Winchester 100 358" on Gunbroker, Auction Arms and Guns International doesn't show any, including closed auctions.
Unfortunately, I'm out of town and don't have access to my history of Winchester books. So can you provide a citation that the 100 was factory chambered in 358?
I hear what you're saying. I'm not basing my post on the Hawks citation, but it was the best I could find. When you're trying to establish that something doesn't exist, citations are few and far between.
OTOH, if Winchester did indeed produce Model 100s in 358, it shouldn't be too difficult to provide a solid citation to that effect.
How about some pictures? Send me a PM if you need help posting them.
I just dug out all my old Winchester catalogs and could find no reference to a Model 100 in .358 Win caliber.
Also, see this:
I do trust Wisners info much further then Chuck's info.
But then there is this:
That is what all my old Winchester catalogs reflect anyway.
Not knowing why Winchester didn't make the gun in .358, I never liked the idea of modifying it to that caliber, but it was done. I suspect Winchester may have tried to use .358 and encountered headspace problems, since the .358 (like the old .35 Remington) doesn't have a lot of shoulder to provide case support and a semi-auto can drive the cartridge into the chamber hard enough to create excess headspace.
Looks absolutely 100% real to me.
I kept running across references to them in Goggle where someone said they owned one way back when.
I don't think we can get any better proof they actually did make at least one then those two photo's of yours right there though!
In any case a rare bird indeed!
Questions in my mind would be whether Winchester roll-marked all its barrels on the same machine, with the caliber blank, then added the caliber later, or whether they might have made up a special order and used a rollmark with the caliber removed then added the caliber.
Or, someone took a standard .308 barrel, had it rebored and re-rifled, then had the original caliber marking (or at least the "0" filled in and replaced with a "5". That kind of work wouldn't sound to me like just a custom job, but like fakery. Am I wrong? Wouldn't be the first time, but I would really like to see that barrel "in the steel" and take some measurements.
Still doesn't look like it has been tampered with to me.
Or maybe I just have a suspicious mind when I encounter an example of something that "doesn't exist". Sort of like someone claiming he found a Rembrandt in the attic; it has happened, but I wouldn't buy the painting without a lot of folks eyeballing it.
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