winchester 190 .22 problem..

[FlyinGN]

I have a MINT early 70's Winchester 190 and was out at a shoot with it over the weekend and it ran flawlessly BUT during my cleaning process at home after, I managed to break off in the barrel the plastic tip with cotton pad right at the end of the barrel flush. No way to grab it with needlenose and I tried 10g electrical wire shoved down the reciever end to push it out to no avail Anyone have any good ideas on how to get it out??? Its tight in there but it is plastic and cotton ..

Frank

 

[Grump]

NOt familiar with the 190, but I presume it does not allow direct cleaning rod access through the chamber. You remain positive that the rifle is unloaded. No insult, just gotta say it.

Try a steel section of cleaning rod, like the M16 version, IF you can angle it into the bore from the chamber end. **Put the female threaded end towards the patch loop.** Drop & swing & repeat a dozen times. If no movement, or the rod won't go in, try a good length of bicycle brake cable sheathing (the plastic coated stuff) without the center cable and with something plastic to center itself in the hole of the impact end.

Cut to extend only 4-5 inches past the chamber, when against your cleaning loop.

Sleeve that in some sort of plastic, like small-diameter PVC pipe, etc., leaving about 3/4-inch of the cable sheath exposed.

Brace your sleeve in the chamber area somehow, so the sleeve sheath won't just bend past the chamber.

Apply hammer to end of cable sheath. It has a lot of air space, being a helix shape, and has some flex. Inspect plastic sheath at chamber mouth every few strikes, and increase hammer-whomps until the patch loop breaks free.

DO NOT "lube" with water or anything containing water. The cotton will expand and get stuck much worse. Try this first with nothing added. I'm not even sure adding Liquid Wrench is safe with cotton.

 

[FlyinGN]

thanks... I wil try that....

 

[JohnBT]

A little bleach might weaken the cotton enough to get it out. Or maybe a quick shot of flame - lighter fluid, propane torch. How about a big shot of compressed air?

The barrel on that rifle does come off - IF you can find someone with a factory barrel wrench. Then buy the wrench from them so you can keep tightening the barrel nut because they are famous for working loose.

John

 

[FlyinGN]

thanks.. The air is out.. Hard to get a chuck in the reciever end of the barrel.. I like the lighter fluid idea..

 

[FlyinGN]

got it out tonight. The wadding dried up and shrung enough for me to push it out with a 10g wire

Frank

 

[45crittergitter]

Couple ideas for future reference.

I keep a length of thick, stiff string trimmer plastic string in my hunting gear. Weighs nothing and costs nothing, but will slide down a rifle barrel from either end and is amazingly stiff when contained within the bore.

The compressed air idea has great merit. If you have a blow nozzle, and everyone with a compressor should, it shouldn't be hard to rig up an extended or bent tip to reach the chamber. Have to find a rubber tip for it. Works great on stopped up fridge/freezer drain lines....

 

[Grump]

Yay!! Glad you got it out.

 

[Jim K]

Lesson in why plastic cleaning rod tips are bad.

I was going to suggest removing the barrel (easy on the 190) and using a piece of drill rod from the breech end, but I am glad you didn't have to resort to that.

Jim