Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Ugly Sauce, Jan 21, 2022.
I've never seen the subsonic ammo the OP is requesting. Seams like kind of an odd offering to make 22 magnum subsonic ammo since there is so much subsonic 22lr ammo at 1/4 the cost. I would buy a box of it to keep around if I saw it though, it would go well with my little Stevens crackshot.
Quiet and less meet damage. They are loud in that video because its a pistol, but in a 20" barrel rifle they would be much much quieter. I can see the appeal for like a survival or trapping rifle that you can carry a few of each and pop in whichever is appropriate in the movement. That is assuming they shoot to somewhat of a similar point of aim, which I would guess they probably won't.
What’s next, subsonic .300 WM?
What is the point. ? If one is packing a .22 mag rifle in the woods, and for some reason wants to take some small game, that reduced load would be more "gentle" on the meat. And, it would be kind of annoying to carry two rifles, one in .22 mag, and one in .22LR. I've never shot anything with a .22MAG, but I suspect it would be a little rough on something like a grouse, or put a pretty big hole in a squirrel. Probably not too bad on a rabbit. But, even in that case a .22LR would be "more better".
That of course is an extremely small market, or "nitch" for the load, and why most people say: "if you want .22LR ballistics, just use a .22LR". It's more of a wilderness survival thing, turns one gun into two. (if the accuracy is there) That is the point, or reason, which appeals to very few people! Maybe like me and three others.
Yeah, availability. But, I think they are still producing it. For some reason I thought they dropped it, but I guess with the interest in silencers/suppressors they can sell enough. I noticed that most places list it for sale, but "out of stock" of course.
Okay, thanks again.
Of course like everything els shot placement is key. I know with my cheap Marlin .22wmr bolt the accuracy is there for 50 yard headshots on squirrel. Even with .22lr you wouldn’t put the shot in the eating meat.
The POI is going to be different enough between a hot round and a subsonic as to be unusable past 20 yards. If you are within 20 yards you don’t need the magnum to begin with.
First reports I saw of that ammo was for use in Australia. One line of thought was that for someone in that country that already owned a .22 magnum, but didn't want to go through the troubles to get a second rifle in .22 LR, this ammo turned a .22 mag rifle into a .22 LR rifle. Kind of like what people can do with switch barrel guns with one serialized receiver, except this is done without a hardware change.
Of course, in the land of "common" and "widespread" suppressor use (aka the USA), buying a threaded barrel .22 mag rifle now might seem to make some sense. Thanks to this subsonic ammo, I mean.
But really, I'd guess this subsonic .22 mag ammo is simply like .22 LR Quiets for .22 mag shooters. Not too much different than .38 special fired in a .357 magnum carbine, I suppose too.
Seams like just about every hunting video I see from the UK, Australia, or New Zealand they have a suppressor. They are not controlled in other countries so you can just buy them over the counter like any other accessory, just like it should be here!
Yeah. The irony of it all.
Check out the Stevens Favorite, from the re-run of about 2002. Rolling (or falling i dont remember) block action with octagon barrel. Its a tiny little thing.
If i was out with a 22 hunting in my youth, i carried the stevens 22/410 with the Hyper Velocity 1750 FPS Aguila Super Maximum rounds. And a few quick-shoks. Always did the trick. I also used to snipe squirrels off the birdfeeders with a 17 HMR from my bedroom window. Damage at 50 feet was minimal but they always fell. That tiny little pill just doesnt have the mass to do much damage.
My "job" when I was seven-eight-nine was to spend the summers on my mother's family's/uncle and aunt's farms in Iowa, and shoot black birds and gophers with my single shot Winchester .22LR. And barn pigeons too. As if that wasn't enough, cousin Robert and I would get dropped off at the dump, and shoot rats.
You can shoot grouse with rifle where you are?
In my younger days I carried a 22 pistol for that purpose. Is it illegal in Mn, I never checked.
My .44 mag with shot loads, and my New Model Remington Army of Navy caliber have taken quite a few. The SBH holds the record, so far.
I just picked one of those up in 22 mag in December. Great little gun and weights about 3 or 4 lbs
I lied. Apparently you can take grouse with a .22
Cool. So, a .22 magnum shooter can wait for a run of .22 MRF or a run of this subsonic .22 WMR to become available. Sounds like waiting on the IPA beer ship to show up in colonial India.
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