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Winchester 70 Stainless issues or a steal?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Kachok, Jun 26, 2012.

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  1. Kachok

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    Many here know I have been itching for a new Winchester 70 since they came back with the Mauser style action a few years back. Well today I saw a new Model 70 featherweight in Stainless (270 win) for $620 NIB less then the blued versions by $130. Is this a steal of a deal or is there some issue with the stainless that everyone but me knows about? I am thinking really hard about snatching this rifle up, despite the fact that I was looking for a sporter model.
     
  2. Kachok

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    BTW I did inspect for flaws, stock was not touching the barrel at any point, and the fit and finnish appeared to perfect, the wood was nice and the action was as expected of a Winchester 70.....awe inspiring.
     
  3. H&Hhunter

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    Is it an older New Haven gun or a new South Carolina gun?
     
  4. Ridgerunner665

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    No help here...I saw a 300 WSM featherweight that was $100 less than the 30-06 sitting right next to it.

    I didn't think to look at the time but it may have been an older model, not made by FN...for reference if a model 70 was made by FN the serial number will start with "35" followed by 3 letters...that may be the reason, but its only a guess.
     
  5. Kachok

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    It is the new South Carolina, FN made Model 70.
     
  6. Kachok

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    Correct me if I am wrong but aren't all the new Mauser style versions FN made? I though the New Haven factory closed in 2006 and the new model did not come out until 2008.
     
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    NO...I believe New haven produced a model they called the "Classic"...which was also CRF. They did this right near the end and it did help sales some...but it was too late to save them.

    Its hard to make sense of the details just from reading on the net so I may be wrong on that...but that is the way I understand it.
     
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    This too...

    Also...if it is a USRAC (New Haven) produced rifle, the serial number will start with "G".
     
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  10. Kachok

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    Well I doubt that they would still have an early 90s model for sale NIB especially since that store was built only three years ago. If I cannot find any issues with it I am fixing to own a new rifle, I really like stainless and that is about $300 less then other places I have seen them. I will be sure to post a range report once I get some handloads worked up.
     
  11. Ridgerunner665

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    An early 90's model on a shelf wouldn't really surprise me at all...guns often set on shelves at distributor warehouses for quite some time.

    My 30-06...bought new in late 2011...left SC in early 2009.

    I'd say 20 years isn't common...but entirely within the realm of possibility. Maybe it just got shuffled to the bottom of the pile...a few times, LOL.

    I don't know though...the serial number will tell you..."35xxx" for FN or "G" for New Haven...and that is for sure.
     
  12. Kachok

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    I will double check the serial just in case, thanks for the info :D
     
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    I've got a Win M70 Extreme Weather I bought earlier this year. Not the same specific model as the rifle in the OP, but presumably the same stainless barrel/action/bolt. I've had no issues whatsoever with my rifle. Couldn't be more pleased with it. I'm fairly certain my rifle was produced in the South Carolina plant, but to be certain, let me go check the serial number...

    Serial Number is 35AMP#####. Interesting thing I never noticed. Right side of the barrel, right next to the beginning of the flutes, it's stamped:

    - Model 70 * Extreme Weather SS -
    -- Made in U.S.A. * Baco Inc.. Morgan, Utah --

    ...Baco Inc. Morgan, Utah??
     
  14. Ridgerunner665

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    FN's corporate offices are in Utah.
     
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    Makes sense. Thanks.
     
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    my two left hand winchesters are crf and were bought just before winchester went out the last time. one is a stainless -walnut 270 and the other is a blue-walnut 7mm mag,both serial numbers start with G and are marked classic sporter. i think i paid 500.00 apiece OTD and are super shooting rifles,tho a little heavy. eastbank.
     

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    Winchester bought back their "Classic" with CRF in 1992 and made both pushfeed standard models as well as the CRF Classics until they closed in 2006. When FN resumed production in 2008 they dropped the PF rifles from production and only make CRF rifles.

    If you can find one of the Classics it is my opinion that they are the preferred version. I have 2 stainless Classics in 30-06, one is a Featherweight, the other a Sporter. Also have one in 300 WSM as well as an FN produced EW in 308.

    The older Classics used the older, bulletproof trigger which I prefer. The new guns use a different enclosed trigger. It works fine, I just prefer the older trigger. As do many others.

    If it is an older Classic it will have "MADE IN NEW HAVEN CT. USA" stamped on the left side of the barrel. Newer guns have "MADE IN USA. BACO INC. MORGAN UTAH" stamped on the right side of the barrel. Both are good guns. They did offer the Featherweight in stainless and walnut in both the Classic and the newer FN guns. I'm guessing this is a Classic. The new FN made stainless FW's are hard to find and expensive.
     
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    Just to add. The stainless Classic FW I own was just bought about 2 months ago NIB. It was made in 1999. I cut the hangtags off the gun. I bought from an individual at a gunshow for $700 OTD and felt that was a fair price since a new producton stainless rifle would be nearer $1,000. And with the older trigger design I consider it a better gun.
     
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    I have bought NIB guns from guys off forums, walking around gun shows etc. They bought stuff to add to their collection and never got around to shooting it or kept it factory fresh as an investment.
     
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    I bought a Model 70 Extreme Weather SS about a month ago and mine has the same markings as yours. I'm very pleased with the rifle.
     
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    BACO, Inc is "Browning Arms Company, the subsidiary of FN Herstal that currently has the rights to the Winchester name. Brownings headquarters were in Morgan, Utah. The guns are assembled in FN's plant in South Carolina from parts manufactured in the US at other FN facilities. I have a Win M70 EW in .30-06 that I bought last year...it is a wonderful rifle.

    FH
     
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    I bought an FN made M70 Featherweight last week for a song and it is a gorgeous rifle! Fine bluing, wood, smooth action, and a good price to boot!

    Now I just need an optic...

    -Jake
     
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    pardon my ignorance, as i feel this will be a "duh" moment after someone responds, but what is "FN"?
     
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    Used in a sentence...


    These FN ribs are dee-lish-us.
     
  25. jmr40

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    FN is short for Fabrique National. They are the Belgain company that is the parent company of Winchester and Browning.

    Winchester actually went out of business in 1980. The name was bought out by a group of investers who owned the compny and used the same factory up until 2006. Winchesters made 1980 up until about 2000 or so are actually "United States Repeating Arms Co." guns. Many have the USRAC logo on them.

    FN bought the company sometime in the late 90's or early 2000. Because of a variety of reasons they closed the New Haven CT factory in 2006. There were no Winchesters made until 2008 when FN stared making them at their factory in South Carolina where they make machine guns for the military.

    The FN made guns are by far the best quality of any of the Winchesters out of the box. Including the pre-64's. They did change the trigger to a different design in 2008 and I prefer the old trigger. The 1992-2006 guns sometimes have some issues, but it is a solid design. If you get a 1992-2006 gun and have a few minor details straighted out you will have a fine rifle. The new versions are great out of the box.
     
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