Quantcast
  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Winchester White Box VS Remington UMC

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by tntwatt, Apr 28, 2008.

?

Winchester White Box VS Remington UMC which is generally better?

  1. Winchester White Box

    103 vote(s)
    65.2%
  2. Remington UMC

    55 vote(s)
    34.8%
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. tntwatt

    tntwatt Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2008
    Messages:
    329
    Location:
    Georgia
    Opinions?
     
  2. Atla

    Atla Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2008
    Messages:
    349
    Oh no I started this didn't I from the Walmart thread.

    Remington UMC is more -consistant-.

    Try taking winchester white box, any caliber, and sending them through a chrono and you'll see what I mean. ;)
     
  3. Winchester 73

    Winchester 73 member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2007
    Messages:
    1,576
    Location:
    Miami,Florida
    Agree.
     
  4. tntwatt

    tntwatt Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2008
    Messages:
    329
    Location:
    Georgia
    Atla, yep.

    The WWB is slightly cheaper at wolly world but they almost never have .45 UMC in stock.
     
  5. Atla

    Atla Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2008
    Messages:
    349
    I should add that I also think Winchester White Box is more 'sketch'.

    I've heard and seen a lot of deformed rounds in WWB lately. Also heard of some Squibs and even some KaBoom's. (stands to figure guys, if the powder load is very low in some rounds - it is very high in others)

    I don't really like shooting it anymore.
     
  6. WSM MAGNUM

    WSM MAGNUM Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2007
    Messages:
    194
    Location:
    New Windsor, Maryland
    If I`m going to buy either one for just target shooting at the range, it makes no difference to me. I`ll buy whatever is cheaper. Inconsistant or not, makes no difference for just plinking or target shooting.
     
  7. Mike J

    Mike J Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2007
    Messages:
    2,181
    Location:
    Georgia
    Didn't vote because I usually use Blazer Brass for target. I believe it is cheaper than either of your choices & the only thing my Ruger P-944 has ever failed to eject with was UMC.
     
  8. tntwatt

    tntwatt Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2008
    Messages:
    329
    Location:
    Georgia
    mike j, haven't tried blazer brass. where do you normally buy?
     
  9. Lupinus

    Lupinus Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2005
    Messages:
    3,502
    Location:
    Upstate SC
    wally world sells blazer brass. Good price and good stuff
     
  10. Ala Dan

    Ala Dan Member in memoriam

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    12,879
    Location:
    Home Of The First Capitol Of The Confederate State
    Good Stuff

    dirty as all get out, but does the job! ;)
     
  11. Big Daddy K

    Big Daddy K Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2007
    Messages:
    317
    Location:
    Sulphur Springs Texas
    Have ya noticed that UMC 9 hps dont open up in wet newspaper?

    Then again I shot a couple of my friends high dollar ? hps and they didnt open either.

    WWB is 4 bucks cheaper per 100 but the UMCs look cooler.
     
  12. Winchester 73

    Winchester 73 member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2007
    Messages:
    1,576
    Location:
    Miami,Florida
    Still an excellent idea after 144 years
     
  13. OMGWTFBBQ

    OMGWTFBBQ Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2008
    Messages:
    230
    Location:
    Neither here nor there.
    I've heard good things about Aguila's ammo, but I haven't tried any of their center fire ammo myself. CCI Blazer Brass is good stuff, Dirty, but more consistent than WWB, and my Sub 2000 likes it better than UMC. Out of a 100 of each, UMC gave me 2 FTEs, WWB had a squib and a couple rounds that sounded and felt a little light, CCI worked as well as I expected it to(relatively consistent, and reliable).
     
  14. retgarr

    retgarr Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2008
    Messages:
    322
    Hm, I dunno about aguila center fire, but I know that their .22lr smells like cat piss and isn't always liked by semi auto pistols.
    And blazer brass produces consistent pressure according to feel, but it sure makes my cz dirty, not the easiest gun to clean either. Although it will eat anything.
     
  15. Sans Authoritas

    Sans Authoritas member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2008
    Messages:
    1,126
    UMC brass seems to be of a higher quality seems to me to be much better for reloading. Anyone else noticed it?

    -Sans Authoritas
     
  16. Auburn1992

    Auburn1992 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2008
    Messages:
    1,015
    Location:
    Tennessee
    Just wondering, how does it look cooler?
     
  17. XD Fan

    XD Fan Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2006
    Messages:
    1,012
    Location:
    Stuck up here (rural Missouri) and got Dixie on my
    I use the CCI Blazer Brass as it saves me a couple of bucks a box. I have only had one hiccup in several thousand rounds. But I do prefer UMC to WWB.
     
  18. peacenik

    peacenik Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2008
    Messages:
    30
    glah glah

    I get better accuracy with the Remington. I have no idea why.
     
  19. 3 gun

    3 gun Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    710
    Location:
    N 041 24.000 W 081 43.000 N.E.Ohio
    Can't tell the difference between the two. I've used thousands of both. Both make the same power factor (129-131) when used for USPSA matches. I buy whatever is cheapest. WWB seems just a little cleaner shooting.
     
  20. Patrick Henry

    Patrick Henry Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2007
    Messages:
    82
    Location:
    Virginia
    I think Remington has underloaded ammo, at least in the calibers I shoot, 9mm and .38 spl.

    No Remington 9mm comes even close to 115gr WWB. I've never had any failure in hundreds of rounds of the latter. Shot to shot it feels consistent to me.

    Judging from the holes in the paper, Remington 158gr LRN .38 special is tumbling through the air, at least from a 2-inch barrel. I wish somebody would chrono some of that, I bet it's going slow as hell. (even for .38) Don't seem to have that problem with their 130gr MC.

    Another issue with Remington is their primer caps are very hard. My friend's PPK would put a nice dent in the primer with no ignition. 2nd strike the round would fire if you manually cocked the hammer. He said other brands weren't a problem.
     
  21. rockinrussky

    rockinrussky Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2007
    Messages:
    201
    Location:
    Richmond, VA
    I've come across a couple of slightly deformed white box (9mm) out of a thousand rounds or so while I've yet to have a single issue with the UMC. Plus, the UMC just seems to be a bit more accurate and not quite as dirty.
    Heck, if you want something cheap to plink with just get Blazer brass, plus the non-aluminum cased ones are reloadable.
     
  22. Halo

    Halo Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2004
    Messages:
    728
    Location:
    Charlotte, NC & part time in the beautiful Blue Ri
    My experience has been the same, though the only Remington I've shot is their 115gr UMC in 9mm. The recoil seems noticeably softer than other range fodder I've used. I'll have to chronograph some next time I go shooting. Out of curiosity I pulled a bullet from the 9mm UMC and was really surprised at just how little powder there was in there. I know fast burning powders have a smaller charge, but I was still surprised.

    On the upside I do like the Remington cases for reloading.
     
  23. bakert

    bakert Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2005
    Messages:
    1,668
    I've heard second hand horror stories about both but I've used both with good results, even used them both in my carry guns at times. Often think some people complain just about anything or maybe I just got the good batches:p
    Edited to add, my experience only with 9MM and .45ACP
     
    Last edited: Apr 30, 2008
  24. Valkman

    Valkman Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2003
    Messages:
    6,709
    Location:
    North Las Vegas, NV
    Much prefer WWB. The one time I chrono'd my reloads and factory ammo (all in .45acp), the reloads and WWB were consistant and almost equal in every respect. The UMC was all over the map like their powder thrower was dumping a different load every round.
     
  25. kd7nqb

    kd7nqb Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2006
    Messages:
    2,207
    Location:
    Puyallup Washington
    I am a WWB guy but I will buy either or Blazer brass whichever is least outrageous at that time. Also I have been told (but not yet confirmed) that there is a difference between the green box UMC and the stuff in the yellow 250rnd packs.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page