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Witch Hunt: Newspaper publishes Google Map of NY Gun Permit Owners

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by John828, Dec 24, 2012.

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  1. Fryerpower

    Fryerpower Member

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    The commercial appeal in Memphis, TN has had a look up available for years. I wish the state would fix this.

    Time to email the link to my reps again and ask them to include language to fix this when they pass the law that lets teachers carry at school. :rolleyes:

    Jim
     
  2. sdhunter

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    Its sad to think that this is only the beginning of the critisim of law abiding gun owners. I fear that we will get a much bigger lashing before it is all said and done. What ever happened to common sense?
     
  3. wow6599

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    Why is this posted here? I don't (and won't) want to look at the link.

    Please remove. :fire:
     
  4. k_dawg

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    The Scarlett Letter anyone?
     
  5. Rollis R. Karvellis

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    It only took 19 posts for someone to figure out that the outed people are even more safe now compared to their niebores.

    OR
    Dear Mr. News Paper Guy, thank you for letting me know what house not to break into.
    A. Criminal.
     
  6. gym

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    That map is a lot of crap. I know several people who hold permits and not 1 is on there.
     
  7. got cope?

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    Dont think of it as a map for criminals to steal guns, hopefully those permit holders will defend their home accordingly, think of it as a map of homes not to rob, but all homes without a permit holder icon = more than likely unarmed homes that can easily be pillaged with little resistance.
     
  8. cvoharley

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    A fellow former officer had this reply after I told him about the map:

    "It's all right, you know when they'll get mine from me...
    Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year!"

    Fortunately I live in FL now and this information is not available to the public for both LE or law abiding citizens.
     
  9. ephraimf

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    The map does work. My name and the name of a friend both come up.:cuss:
     
  10. fanchisimo

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    This seems like a huge breech of privacy. Just because the law requires govt and police know you have a gun, that doesn't mean everybody needs to. It sounds almost like the sex offenders list, but these gun owners haven't done anything illegal. I agree that if a criminal even looks on this list, he will avoid the one where he might get shot like the plague.
     
  11. Trent

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    This ... sickens me.
     
  12. Trent

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    On the other hand.

    Damn that's a lot of dots.
     
  13. bushmaster1313

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    How about the addresses of people who have certain medical procedures?

    How about:

    Income tax records

    Birth Certificates

    School Records

    Military Records

    Immigration Records
     
  14. Kevin Rohrer

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    Who says gun registration doesn't work to reduce crime: :evil:
     
  15. kimbershot

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    hey, i sc we all got guns--no need for foia--all a bad guy has to figure out is who ain't armed. :evil:
     
  16. ephraimf

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    This is exactly like a sex offender's list. If you read the article you will see that it starts off talking about a murder committed by a mentally ill person owning illegal handguns, and talks about how people should be informed so that they won't unknowingly move to an area where people have legal guns.

    This is a link to the article which referernces the maps: http://www.lohud.com/article/20121223/NEWS04/312230056/
     
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  17. bushmaster1313

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    Under the New York Personal Privacy Act:

    Here are the prohibited act:

    Civil action available for those who are outed:

    I think we have oodles and oodles of civil actions awaiting, unless the disclosure of this type of information is authorized by statute.

    Could also be conspiracy to violate civil rights
     
  18. OilyPablo

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    The author and the people he cites act like it's some kind of completely scary thing. Oh my God my neighbors are exercising a right in the Constitution......
     
  19. texasgun

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    only 4 (!) gun permits in ALL of manhattan? and only a few in Queens? C'mon.... not sure what database he used but that awfully incomplete....
     
  20. sidheshooter

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    I have the opposite view as those that see this as a list of places not to rob: it may well be a list of places not to invade, or burgle at night, but it is also a shopping list for thieves who specialize in waiting until a target goes to work.

    Curse that paper. I hope a lack of subscribers takes them down.
     
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    The accuracy of the list isn't the issue, if even one person on that list is accurate, their privacy is being violated.
     
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    You know, you'd think the newspaper editor would be a little afraid to put out information like that.
     
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    interesting that you use the term "witch-hunt" as in the 1600s, the witch hunts were spread by two things... first, a small group of people began to spread rumors about supposed witches, claiming they would kidnap and eat babies, or boil them up into potions.... well, the left wing media is using the connecticut shooting as an analog to this 17th century story

    so out of the complete and utter 17th century ignorance, these stories and rumors heard by the uneducated and irrational combined with their complete fear and cowardess of the unkown, of the things they couldnt explain lead to the wrongful persecution and murder of many, many people

    so i completely agree with the term "witch hunt".. and what this newspaper made an attempt at doing was make formal accusations of who are the witches in this mess hoping the people will march to their houses with torches and pitchforks because the people who wrote the article is too spineless to confront them theirselves
     
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    I'm not familiar with New York but how many dots are in perceived "good" areas compared to "bad" areas.

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  25. cheesebigot

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    Not that I'm advocating it, but you can take the Google map object from the page source and reverse geocode it via a client-side Javascript run into a locally written file.

    (Un?)fortunately, Google only allows 2500 calls of that API call per day per IP, so it'd take a few days to aggregate everything, but it most certainly can (and probably has been) done.

    Good data in bad hands is worse than bad data in good hands.
     
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