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With IR laser designators coming down so cheap is it worth getting one

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by george burns, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. george burns

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    I would only consider this if there were an inexpensive way to see the IR. But Dvor had a IR and Green Laser box together for 130 yesterday. Is it worth picking one up just for the green laser. Your getting the IR for free really, but without Night vision or some sort of Ir glasses what good is it?
     
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    I've only shot with an IR laser once, and with the night vision, it was probably one of my coolest shooting experiences. If you think you might some day get NV, and it is reasonable to assume you'd be able to shoot at night/dark, then I'd definatley consider it.
     
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    Good for pissing off cops in Missoula, MT. I watched some chump local cop lose his mind because a guy some friends and I were drinking with pointed one down the street at the drunk college crowd filing out of a bar. The dude practically lost his mind, started spouting some crap about how a green laser is what you see before the bad guy light you up. Apparently he was in the national guard and had never actually been deployed, he was dealing with no fewer than 5 recently honorably discharged OIF/OEF Vets. After much laughter at his expense and an explaination that only bad guys see the green dot of death, we offered to let him walk.
     
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  4. Mosin Bubba

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    It's hard to blame a cop for getting testy about a weapons laser being pointed at a group of people.
     
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    Be very careful with green lasers from China. There was a big consumer warning about them a while back. Something about them throwing off a lot of UV light.
     
  6. Orcon

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    True and it's a bad idea generally but this guy was particularly hard to take seriously. Imagine if Farva and Paul Blart managed to have a baby and the result of that unholy union decided to come yell at you for giving him PTSD.
     
  7. Tirod

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    Green lasers aren't very efficient, it basically uses the standard red generator and filters the light output to select the green wavelength and "throws away" the rest. To get a legal output comparable to red the battery life is considerably reduced. IR is nice but - you need the older headsets to see it and those aren't cheap. There is also the obvious disadvantage of being technically obsolescent - full color night vision is already issued and is the next "game changer" coming up.

    For the set of circumstances we might use a projected light beam, a green laser which projects a spot of light, about 12-18" at 100m, would do, especially if it illuminates the target. That is COM shooting centered up and also ID's what is rustling around out there. At the present time the marketplace isn't doing much unless you look for varmint lights and they aren't getting the benefit of any cost reductions from large scale manufacture.

    Cheap import lights or high end issue grade is about it on the marketplace so for the hobby shooter wanting to trick out a HD gun I will pass.
     
  8. george burns

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    I have a Red Tlr4 for 6 years now, and have had a few prior, all red. They actually worked for what they were made for, "low light shooting". I never really thought it was worth 100 dollars extra for a green laser, "for my home use". If I were in the Military it would be a different story. I just saw them and was interested what others thought. My eye is usually faster that looking for a dot, unless I am in some weird position and can't get my sight on target without exposing myself. Hopefully I am done with that part of my life.
     
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    The smallest full color night vision I've seen is about the size of a football, and I'm assuming probably weighs about as much as a brick. It also picks up on IR light.

    I think it's worth it if it's an option. The human eye sees green more easily than any other color.
     
  10. george burns

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    Next one, after they make a new generation. This $400 dollar laser stuff is ridiculous. It's strictly mark up by the sellers. They more than likely buy the lamp that is the best deal on the market, which can't be more than 10 dollars.
     
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    1- worthless without goggles and 2- you get what you pay for.
     

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