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Wolf Ammo Poll

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by 12 Volt Man, Jun 23, 2003.

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What is your experience with Wolf Ammo???

Poll closed Jun 24, 2003.
  1. I use it and I have had zero failures of any kind.

    35 vote(s)
    37.2%
  2. I use it or used it and I had failure(s) directly attributed to the green laquer case.

    6 vote(s)
    6.4%
  3. I use it or used it and I had failure(s) directly attributed to the red coating on the neck.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. I use it or used it and I had failure(s) directly attributed to the ammo for some other reason.

    10 vote(s)
    10.6%
  5. I use it, but only in my "Commie Guns", Makarov's AK's atc....

    28 vote(s)
    29.8%
  6. No experience.

    15 vote(s)
    16.0%
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  1. 12 Volt Man

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    I want to find out how many have actually used Wolf Ammo in their guns and have had failures. I also want to hear about those who have used it and had good luck with it. I don't want to hear about those that use it in AKs or Makarovs etc......... Have you shot Wolf in your ARs, your 1911s, and other non-commie guns?
    Let's see if we can sort out how much actual experience we have with this ammo and how much of the info out there is plain BS that is just posted because someone else posted it.

    Let's see if we can sort this out with actual experiences. We will most likely end up more confused ;)

    I myself, am the type that has only used it in my "Commie Guns". The more I am reading about it, I am thinking I may use it for plinking ammo in other guns. This is what prompted me to create this poll.
     
  2. Sgt

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    Around here, it's not that much cheaper than Federal American Eagle, especially when it's on sale. So I've never bothered to try it. Besides, I'm left with Federal brass this way :)

    Semper Fi, Sgt
     
  3. braindead0

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    At the plate shoot we had this weekend, all the full-auto Uzi folks were shooting Wolf ammo, and not a single problem that I saw.. I'd estimate 3000rounds of it went down range while I was there.

    I don't shoot the stuff however...
     
  4. gunsmith

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    nasty foul smelling

    useless junk
     
  5. KC

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    My shooting companions and I have gone thru thousands of rounds of the stuff in various calibers, in various guns. (Glocks, Rugers, M1A's, AR's, etc.) I have seen zero failures with the stuff, though the green paint and red sealer is a nuisance come cleanup time, but that's what I have a dunk tank for. Besides, it's hella easier picking up steel cases with a magnet than scrounging around on all fours after a weekend of heavy shooting.

    KC
     
  6. Ian

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    I had no failures with the case I used, but I only shot it in my Daewoo (which will eat stuff ARs choke on).
     
  7. 444

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    This topic has been brought up more than the 1911 vs. Glock threads.

    I have shot it in various calibers including over 5000 rounds out of my ARs. NO problems at all. I have Bushmaster, Oly, Colt. I have chromed and unchromed chambers. Never had a problem. I have used it in formal shooting classes and never had a problem. I have shot groups with it at 200 yards, no problem. I have fired it in 9mm out of my machine gun. No problem.
    No laquer, no jams, no duds, no FTF; no problems at all. In all calibers, I have fired close to 10,000 rounds of it.
    In 5.56 it is about half the money of any thing else my dealer can get from his wholesalers. You can spend your money where you want to, I will chose to shoot twice the ammo for the same money with great results. I can't reload for what Wolf costs me. It costs about the same, but takes me hours to load 1000 rounds.
     
  8. P95Carry

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    Only use .223 and 7.62 x 39 .. AK and SKS lap it up bu6t Mini ... hates it! Use something decent it groups ... shoot steel cased stuff ....... no group! Seems my 1:7 twist has a prob for some reason . I get tumblers too even at 50 yds!

    Most handgun ammo is homeloads.
     
  9. TheOtherOne

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    I've shot over 3,000 rounds of Wolf 7.62x39mm and had one failure. The firing pin struck the center and left the usual indent, but nothing happened. I guess that's a primer problem. Only failure ever.
     
  10. Scooter .45

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    Have used it some w/1911 and no problems. Dirty though and use something else when I've got the money.
     
  11. AJ Dual

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    Use it, a few problems, but worth the price...

    For the money, I'm quite happy with it.

    Works great in all my "commie" guns. Seems fine in my Glocks, and Kel-Tec carbine too.

    I've had chambering issues in AR's with the .223, perhaps an outsized lot, or something about the steel cases friction being different than brass, or the laquer, but if it was chambered manually it fired fine and extracted without difficulty. The friend with the case of Wolf sold it to someone with a Norinco 84s .223 AK and it worked great thereafter.

    Some guns are just finiky with steel cases. Buy a small lot, and if it eats it, it should be fine. No real problems with lacquer or the sealants. Cleaning solvents that will take care of lead copper and powder fouling will clean Wolf fine.
     
  12. Preacherman

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    I won't use it, for two reasons:

    1. Clark Custom Guns (http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/) tell me that they're very happy with Wolf ammo because of the number of broken firing pins and extractors on 1911's and AR15's that they've had to fix after these guns were used to shoot the stuff!

    2. Olympic Arms specifically warn on their Web site that Wolf and other steel/lacquer ammunition should NOT be used in their firearms, due to problems experienced in the past with this type of ammo.

    Those are good enough reasons for me to avoid the stuff like the plague!
     
  13. 10-Ring

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    I only have one personal experience w/ the stuff. I have thankfully not given the company any of my money! I've used it once experienced alot of problems.
     
  14. PlayTheAces

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    I picked up a couple of boxes of .45 at a show awhile back. I tried it in a series 70, but had feeding problems. A lot of feeding problems.

    Next time to the range, I loaded a box into moon clips and tried it in a 625. It's a little dirty, but surprisingly accurate in the 625. I wouldn't try it again in an auto, but if I run across it again I'll pick up a few more boxes for the 625.
     
  15. Mannlicher

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    I shoot a lot of Wolf ammo, the 7.62 X 39. I will shoot steel case ammo only in guns designed for it.
     
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    sorry to the guy above who considered it useless junk but............

    My SKS just loves it. Hell, it may not even know there is any other type!!........as it has been shooting it flawlessly since the stuff was introduced to the market. Many (many) 1000s of rounds. CHEAP!

    In a fit of insanity I did run a box of Wolf 9mm through my P7. It shot just fine but I'm not sure it was too happy about it.

    I may or may not run some through my GI 1911 one day. It is not that much cheaper than the corrosive surplus stuff though.
     
  17. aerod1

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    I only use Wolf Ammo in my Mosin Nagant M-44. It seems to work just fine, except it is hard to extract the empty case after firing.

    Jim Hall
     
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    You might have a headspace problem there aerod1, not a real big deal but if brass cased ammo empties are also hard to extract you might want to have it checked.
     
  19. cool45auto

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    I've been shooting Wolf exclusively thru my SKS and Ruger P97DC without any problems so far.
     
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    Yugo SKS and VEPR K love the stuff, just recently ordered another case. Barnaul too, is Wolf and Barnaul the same exact thing but with different packaging?? They seem to shoot identical and they sure look the same.
     
  21. lee n. field

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    Two failures related to Wolf .223.

    One case stuck in a NEF Handi-Rifle. :(

    One stuck case, one broken extractor in a Mini-14. :(:(:(

    No failures in commie guns made to work with the stuff.

    Not Worth It.
     
  22. 444

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    "Clark Custom Guns (http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/) tell me that they're very happy with Wolf ammo because of the number of broken firing pins and extractors on 1911's and AR15's that they've had to fix after these guns were used to shoot the stuff!"

    You gotta feel sorry for someone that sends a gun to Clark's to have an extractor or a firing pin changed out. Removing the firing pin and extractor are a part of the basic cleaning on an AR. Neither requires any tools. Therefore, if you have to send your gun to Clark's to change out parts, that strongly implies to me that they know nothing about the rifle, and don't maintain the rifle.
    That being said, I have fired at least 3000 rounds of Wolf out of one particular AR over the last year. I remove the extractor and firing pin every time I clean the rifle. Removing the firing pin requires removing one cotter pin with your fingernail. The extractor requires the use of the firing pin to push a single pin out. There is no undue wear to either part, and I check them each time pretty carefully. I also change out my extractor springs every couple thousand rounds at which time I am looking at all the parts of the extractor (extractor, extractor spring, and insert). I would know if they were going south on me. They arn't.
     
  23. cordex

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    Didn't have an option I liked.

    I've used it in many guns (from all the political spectrum) with no failures related to ammo. My SKS choked on it when I had some excess cosmoline in the trigger group.

    Now I mostly use it in my commie guns.
     
  24. 556A2

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    Use it in guns it was designed for.
     
  25. 444

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    "Use it in guns it was designed for."

    Exactly. If it was designed to be fired in 5.56, then fire it in a 5.56. If it was designed to be fired in 9mm, fire it in a 9mm.
     
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