I am getting ready to order some Wolf small rifle primers and wanted to see if anyone here has had any experience with them? They have a small rifle, small rifle magnum, and a small rifle 223. I will be using them in a bolt action 223 using either 844, varget, or benchmark powder. I don't mind having different primers on hand for different powders but I'm not sure which one to use. Wideners site has different info than what I've read on other forums so I wanted to hear from people that have used them.
Wolf SR Primers?
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NCsmitty
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Welcome to THR, Hosted.
If you are doing a workup for loads, then starting with the SR magnum primers would be my recommendation, especially with the surplus ball powder. I have the Wolf SRM in stock myself.
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If you are doing a workup for loads, then starting with the SR magnum primers would be my recommendation, especially with the surplus ball powder. I have the Wolf SRM in stock myself.
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dogrunner
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I use 'em in my AR's...under WC846 with good results. No failures to ignite, accuracy is on par with WW & 748. Did have to down the load a couple of grains with the bulk stuff as opposed to the latter.
One of those AR's is a selective fire version and I have had absolutely no issues with Wolf in it.
One of those AR's is a selective fire version and I have had absolutely no issues with Wolf in it.
FROGO207
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For a while now I have used Wolf/Tula primers in all sizes with great results. There was a problem last year with some bad batches but seems it was isolated to that. You will have to use more pressure when seating them as they are slightly larger in diameter so there will be a learning curve there. They all seem to act the same as the US made primers as far as I can tell, that said I do not load for bench rest either.
The rule we always used was to use magnum primers with ball propellants for best ignition results. This has always worked the best for me.
The rule we always used was to use magnum primers with ball propellants for best ignition results. This has always worked the best for me.
Anger
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Reloaders I talk to either swear my them or loath them with the majority being the latter group. Id give them a shot personally.
"....You will have to use more pressure when seating them as they are slightly larger in diameter...."
Would this "slightly larger" compensate for "sorta loose" primer pockets due to wear or manufacturing tolerances?
I'd read before that the Wolf/Tula are harder to seat, and am looking for some feedback as to whether getting some will allow me to use those cases that end up being segregated as "questionable" .
Would this "slightly larger" compensate for "sorta loose" primer pockets due to wear or manufacturing tolerances?
I'd read before that the Wolf/Tula are harder to seat, and am looking for some feedback as to whether getting some will allow me to use those cases that end up being segregated as "questionable" .
IME, Wolf LPP are the ones that are harder to seat. The SPP and SRP don't feel especially different from CCI. Well, the Tulammo SPP are a little softer in the cups and they can kinda squish if you seat 'em too hard. Some people might mistake that feeling for harder seating.
FROGO207
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unknwn---Yes I get another use at least using the harder to seat primers on average. I mark the headstamp with a magic marker just to keep them separate when reloading again so that I know they need to be used with a bigger primer at the start or get discarded. Black for check and red for recycle next time.
The feedback on the Wolf LPP is welcome news. That will help to keep some different headstamped .45ACP & .45Colt in the "good" pile for a bit longer.
I use an RCBS hand priming tool exclusively (the one with the universal shell holder). Should I expect that this will affect the use of Wolf LPP & the subsequent priming outcomes in any extraordinary way?
I use an RCBS hand priming tool exclusively (the one with the universal shell holder). Should I expect that this will affect the use of Wolf LPP & the subsequent priming outcomes in any extraordinary way?
jim8377
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I just finished 1000, .223 and 300blk, no misfires, but won't buy more. I buy American if possible.
medalguy
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I've made 2 significant purchases of Wolf 5.56 primers for use in my ARs and M16. I haven't had a single misfire or dud in shooting over 30,000 rounds in the past three years. I understood the problems were mostly with SP primers last year. I haven't heard of any problems with rifle primers.
David Tubbs, 11 time National High Power champ uses Russian primers. He wouldn't take a chance if they were crap. They work better in all the testing he has done. Which is more than I can say about the typical forum commenter that has never used them, only parrots something he heard.
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I asked the same thing about a year ago.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=622403
Close as I can call it. They maybe as hot or a little hotter then the mag primer and the case a little harder to prevent slam fires. So if your just firing them out of a bolt action there would be no need for the 223Rem spicific ones. If your firing them out of an auto loader? Couldn't hurt.
WB
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=622403
Close as I can call it. They maybe as hot or a little hotter then the mag primer and the case a little harder to prevent slam fires. So if your just firing them out of a bolt action there would be no need for the 223Rem spicific ones. If your firing them out of an auto loader? Couldn't hurt.
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NWcityguy2
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My mini 14 doesn't care for them even with a brand new hammer spring. About 90% go off without a problem, the last 10% are either duds or have about a .5 second delay before firing. The only positive thing I'll say about them is they either go off or they don't, never had a primer related squib.
It does limit his ability to shoot the timeless mini though, so it is a trade off.
It does limit his ability to shoot the timeless mini though, so it is a trade off.
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Somehow I don't think you'd see Tubbs within a mile of a mini-14.
Twenty years ago I heard the 14 was a seriously inaccurate piece, 3MOA was a really good one. One of the few real turds Ruger makes.....you'd think they would have figured out how to fix it by now.
Twenty years ago I heard the 14 was a seriously inaccurate piece, 3MOA was a really good one. One of the few real turds Ruger makes.....you'd think they would have figured out how to fix it by now.
NWcityguy2
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They did several years ago. Its just that typical forum commenter that have never used them are only parroting something they heard.
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