Wolf to Make 6.5 Grendel Uppers. Read the Article.

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Wolf To Make 6.5 Grendel AR Uppers

I don’t know if this in new info, but I was reading last night in “The Book of the AR” (which is actually a magazine) that Wolf Performance Ammo is going to start making AR uppers that will be affordably priced. That is all of the info that I have.

Has anyone else heard about this?
 
That sounds a bit frightening, but also won't it run into BATFE issues with foreign made barrels, etc., unless they set up shop here in the US?
 
I haven't heard of that happening on the grendel forum. From what I hear, AA is very difficult to deal with and anything grendel must be approved by Bill.

There are already grendel uppers in the $500 price range, so I doubt that Wolf will be able to offer it any cheaper.
 
I haven't heard of that happening on the grendel forum. From what I hear, AA is very difficult to deal with and anything grendel must be approved by Bill.
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From my understanding, the only thing that Alexander Arms has a legal monopoly on with regard the the 6.5 Grendel is their trademark of the name 'Grendel' for a cartridge. I fully expect to see a repeat of the the '22 Varminter' > 22-250 Remington story.

Anybody can produce whatever ammunition, firearms, chamber reamers, etc that they like for the 6.5 Grendel with absolute impunity, so long as they don't violate the 'Grendel' trademark. I predict we'll be seeing a few new products labeled 6.5x39mm or 6.5-6mmPPC.
 
Are you sure it said that Wolf was going to make 6.5 uppers? I just did a search and found no reference to that...if they were, the 6.5 G community would be all in a flutter. Wolf is just starting to ship 6.5 G ammo and that has gotten everyone very excited.

Additionally, making an upper, in what is as yet not a commercially viable caliber, would be a wildly odd first product for an ammo company to pursue. There would be a lot more "sure things" for them to pursue before that.
 
I know...

This made me re-read the article too, but that's what it said... un less it is a misprint. But I thought that remember reading that they would be putting them out after their ammo hit the shelves.

I'll bring the magazine to work with me tomorrow and scan the article for you guys. It also said that POF was making a piston operated (opp rod type) uppers in 6.5 Grendel.
 
Buddy, go read threads about dealings with AA and you can tell me that so many companies are able to produce the 6.5 Grendel. I have always liked the 6.5, but their uppers were a bit pricey at $1k for the upper. Brass was difficult to get as well, but worth it because they used Lapua brass.

I like the grendel over the 6.8 SPC because the grendel has more bullet weight choices compared to the 6.8 SPC.
 
Buddy, go read threads about dealings with AA and you can tell me that so many companies are able to produce the 6.5 Grendel.
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AA may threaten lawsuits and bluster a lot, but there is absolutely no legal reason why anyone else can't make an upper that's compatible with the 6.5 Grendel, as long as they don't violate the trademark. There is no patent, copyright, or trade secret covering the chamber dimension used in the 6.5 Grendel.
 
Seems like Wolf would start with a 5.56mm upper (bigger market, etc.) for a first go, and branch from there if sales justified the effort.
 
I'll bring the magazine to work with me tomorrow and scan the article for you guys. It also said that POF was making a piston operated (opp rod type) uppers in 6.5 Grendel.
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Hmmm...that makes me very suspect. I spoke to POF sales director at the NRA Annual Meeting last week and asked them if they were thinking about a 6.5 G upper. Told him I'd love to create a SASS-like rifle around their system in that caliber. He looked at me like I had snakes growing out of my eyesockets and said they didn't see a need to go there. At best they might consider a 6.8 but definitely not the 6.5

There are already grendel uppers in the $500 price range, so I doubt that Wolf will be able to offer it any cheaper.
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Where? I'm interested - VERY interested.
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I agree...I'd snap that up in a New York minute. About $800-900 is the cheapest I've seen.
 
There is no patent, copyright, or trade secret covering the chamber dimension used in the 6.5 Grendel.
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Why do you think that they cannot get a design patent on the chamber dimensions?
 
Why do you think that they cannot get a design patent on the chamber dimensions?
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Because there is nothing ornamental about the chamber dimensions or cartridge design for a design patent to cover.

A utility patent can't apply because the cartridge is a simple variation on an exiting design that is readily obvious to people well versed in the art of cartridge development.
 
I don't know about that, I know that they are gonna make the ammo, but the uppers as well? They don't have the parts, machinery, the peeps, etc., other company like Alexander can make it, and they can put their name on it...
 
If Bill Alexander had named it something cooler like 6.5 Warrior or 6.5 Destoyer rather than 6.5 Grendel, then he would probably be selling more rifles. Marketing is important ..............
 
Fella's;

E-Gad! Possibly even F-Gad!! It doesn't mean a thing until somebody starts making them in left handed uppers. Sheesh!

900F
 
Yesterday I posted that Wolf Performance Ammunition would be making 6.5 Grendel uppers. Many of you guys said that you didn’t believe me, so, as promised, here is the article where I read it. Now, I don’t always believe everything that I read, but G&A Magazine probably knows what they are talking about… I hope

The info is on the last page of the second attachment.

For those of you who are Grendel-philes like me, I did copy the whole article.


Enjoy!:D
 

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There's no doubt that you're right about what the article said:
Perhaps the most surprising company to be offering 6.5mm Grendel upper receivers in the future is Wolf Performance Ammunition. I was told it will be offering flattop uppers with 16-inch chrome-lined barrels and mi-length gas systems that shooters can pop onto their existing lowers. Price? Expect it to be typically Wolf, meaning very reasonable.
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Interesting. I just sent an email to Wolf asking about this.
 
I wonder who will be making said uppers for Wolf?

Price? Expect it to be typically Wolf, meaning very reasonable.
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Wolf is reasonable on some cals, but in all honesty, their .22, .30 carb, and some of their other non-russian calibers aren't exactly a big savings.
 
Wolf's 6.5 Grendel ammo not too expensive

it's $10 and change for a box of 20 at Cabela's, so I'm sure you could find it cheaper somewhere. $10-$11 for Grendel ammo is less than half of what AA is selling theirs for. Now, AA does use Lapua brass and bullets and top quality powder, so it's to be expected.
 
Sorry

Forgot to add:

The POF piston upper is in that same article. It is the paragraph before the Wolf part.
 
Just got a reply back from Wolf in answer to my query about the veracity of the article.

From: "WOLF Performance Ammunition" <[email protected]>
To: ********
Subject: RE: Wolf AR upper in 6.5 Grendel?
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:23:59 -0700

We never had plans on manufacturing the AR-15 upper receivers, only the
actual 6.5 grendal ammo itself.
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JesseL

Well, I guess that I stand corrected, but it was in the article. I didn't just make it up, but man is that funny. Way to go Guns & Ammo... Nice Job.
 
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