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Wolf's unfinished guide to the HiPoint C9 (and others)

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by wolf_from_wv, Sep 10, 2007.

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  1. wolf_from_wv

    wolf_from_wv Member

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    By using the following, you imply that you are able to follow gun safety rules, and that you are able to use basic hand tools without inflicting great bodily harm on yourself or others…

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    Disassembly

    Basic tools needed:
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    1/8" pin punch (tight fit)
    3/32" pin punch (looser fit)
    ball pein hammer
    bench blocks (hockey pucks)

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    1. Make sure gun is unloaded.

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    2. Pull slide back and engage safety.

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    3. Punch out roll pin with the punch.

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    4. Pull slide back and lift up. Watch out for the recoil spring under the barrel in the front.

    5. (A.) Sear is removed by tipping the cam slightly to the right. Then, the sear can be lifted up and out.

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    6. (A) Underneath the sear, is the counterweight pivot pin. The counterweight is removed through the magazine well. (Flat side goes down.)

    7. (A) This is the ejector pivot pin. It should be driven towards the top of the slide. When you remove the punch from the hole, watch out for the spring that is behind the ejector.

    Reassembly

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/align_pin_and_hole.jpg

    When you go to reassemble the pistol, the slide retainer goes down in the hole indicated. Once you have reassembled the pistol, pull the slide back a couple times, and test for function with a snap cap.



    NOTES:__________________________________________________________
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    C9 overview pictures

    Right side

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    The magazine lockout fits with the “_” part of the “L” at the bottom. The little wire spring fits with the “_” part of the “L” in the little hole in the magazine release button. To remove the grip, lift the top of it up a little, and then lift the grip towards the top of the pistol.

    Left side

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    Top

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    Inside the slide

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    Comparison of C9 and JHP .45

    Right side

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    Left side

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    Basic operation

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/sear_cam_alignment.jpg

    5. Without a magazine in the pistol, the place indicated by the arrow fits in the notch (D), and blocks the trigger and sear cam from operating (C). When you insert a magazine, it is pushed up, allowing the trigger and sear to operate. The trigger linkage (A) pushes down on the cam (B), which pulls down on the sear. This allows the firing pin to advance forward, and strike the primer.

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    Other information

    Ghost Ring Sight Installation
    To remove open sight from sight base:
    1. Use allen wrench and screwdriver to remove rear sight from slide. Place screws and elevation spring to the side.
    2. Turn windage screw counterclockwise until open sight releases from left side of sight base

    To install ghost ring sight:
    1. With inset (counter bore) side towards you, start ghost ring into the key hole slot in the left side of the sight base. Turn windage screw clockwise to center.
    2. Reinstall ghost ring and sight base back into the slide, being careful to properly align the elevation spring.

    Do NOT over tighten the elevation screw.

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    [​IMG]

    New models have a chamber observation port.

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    Barrel assembly

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    9mm Data

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  2. greener

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    Good work!
     
  3. wolf_from_wv

    wolf_from_wv Member

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    Couldn't figure out how to edit...

    By using the following, you imply that you are able to follow gun safety rules, and that you

    are able to use basic hand tools without inflicting great bodily harm on yourself or others…


    HiPoint Pistols 101

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    Disassembly

    Basic tools needed:
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    1/8" pin punch (tight fit)
    3/32" pin punch (looser fit)
    1/16" pin punch (tight fit)
    3/16" pin punch (tight fit)
    ball pein hammer
    bench blocks (hockey pucks)
    3/32" Hex key/allen wrench
    1/8" flat screwdriver

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    [​IMG]

    1. Make sure gun is unloaded.

    [​IMG]

    1.5 This shows the slide retainer in the rear of the slide.

    [​IMG]

    2. Pull slide back and engage safety.

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    3. Punch out roll pin with the punch.

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    4. Pull slide back and lift up. Watch out for the recoil spring under the barrel in the

    front.

    That is basic HiPoint pistol disassembly.


    Reassembly

    [​IMG]

    When you go to reassemble the pistol, the slide retainer goes down in the hole indicated.

    [​IMG]

    Once you have reassembled the pistol, pull the slide back a couple times, and test for

    function with a snap cap.

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    Proper location of the guide rod.

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    HiPoint Pistols 201

    Advanced disassembly:

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    5. Sear is removed by tipping the cam slightly to the right (or removing it). Then, the sear

    can be lifted up and out.

    THE DROP SAFETY

    This is a necessary assembly. It helps to keep you pistol from firing if it is dropped. I

    advise dropping it to see if it really works.

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    6. Underneath the sear, is the counterweight pivot pin. The counterweight is removed through

    the magazine well. (Flat side goes down.)

    THE EJECTOR

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    7. This is the ejector pivot pin. It should be driven towards the top of the slide to remove

    it. When you remove the punch from the hole, watch out for the spring that is behind the

    ejector. Reinstall the pin from the top.

    NOTES:_________________________________________
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    C9 overview pictures

    Old and new slide retainer

    [​IMG]

    Right side

    [​IMG]

    The magazine lockout fits with the “_” part of the “L” at the bottom. The little wire spring

    fits with the “_” part of the “L” in the little hole in the magazine release button. To

    remove the grip, lift the top of it up a little, and then lift the grip towards the top of the

    pistol.

    Left side

    [​IMG]

    Top

    [​IMG]

    Inside the slide

    [​IMG]

    --------------

    Comparison of C9 and JHP .45

    Right side

    [​IMG]

    Left side

    [​IMG]

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    Basic operation

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/sear_cam_alignment.jpg[img]

    5. Without a magazine in the pistol, the place indicated by the arrow fits in the notch (D),

    and blocks the trigger and sear cam from operating (C). When you insert a magazine, it is

    pushed up, allowing the trigger and sear to operate. The trigger linkage (A) pushes down on

    the cam (B), which pulls down on the sear. This allows the firing pin to advance forward, and

    strike the primer.

    [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/safetyblockssear.jpg

    Picture of safety engaged. The safety prevent the sear from falling.

    [​IMG]

    A picture of the safety when it is ready to fire.

    ==========================================

    Other information

    Ghost Ring Sight Installation

    [​IMG]

    To remove open sight from sight base:
    1. Use allen wrench and screwdriver to remove rear sight from slide. Place screws and

    elevation spring to the side.
    2. Turn windage screw counterclockwise until open sight releases from left side of sight base

    [​IMG]

    To install ghost ring sight:

    [​IMG]

    1. With inset (counter bore) side towards you, start ghost ring into the key hole slot in the

    left side of the sight base. Turn windage screw clockwise to center.
    2. Reinstall ghost ring and sight base back into the slide, being careful to properly align

    the elevation spring.

    Do NOT over tighten the elevation screw.

    ----------------

    [​IMG]

    New models have a chamber observation port.

    -----------------

    [​IMG]

    Barrel assembly

    -----------------

    9mm Data

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    Magazines

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    The 8 round magazines will not work in the carbine because they are shorter.

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    Left to right: 8 round pistol, 10 round pistol, 10 round carbine. The 10 round pistol

    magazine has a block on the bottom to help prevent it from pivoting in the magazine well. The

    carbine magazines are capable of being inserting in the magazine well of the pistol, but may

    not feed reliably.

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    The feed lips appear to be the same.

    Magazine followers

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  4. denfoote

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    All I needed for disassembly of my High Point was a shovel and an obscure patch of the Southwestern Sonoran Desert!!!
     
  5. Whirlwind06

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  6. novaDAK

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    wow even the inside of that gun is ugly! :eek:


    but seriously, I wouldn't mind one for a cheeep shooter :)
    still considering buying the carbine if I can find one at a reasonable price (in my area)
     
  7. Grandpa Shooter

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    Good job! Never thought of getting hockey pucks as bench blocks. Now all I gotta do is find a spoting goods store in Az that carries hockey stuff.
     
  8. obxned

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    I never realized you needed 1/2 a blacksmiths shop to be able to disassemble and clean a HiPoint. Now I know.
     
  9. B yond

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    It looks like you didn't have much trouble getting the barrel out. This would lead me to believe it wouldn't be too tough to swap it out for the longer barrel on the model with a compensator. Have you tried this?

    The only reason I ask is Hi-Point told me it couldn't be done, and I've never understood why.
     
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