Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Mr. Mosin, Oct 19, 2020.
I hadn’t reloaded in awhile.. but I have a healthy stash of 38spl HBWC loaded with 3.2 of Titegroup
Im not sure of the velocity.. seems to be moving fairly quick . I used this load for several years before I had to cease reloading, due to neuropathy.. but hopefully I can start back in a few months..
That's my thoughts on a woods gun. Something small framed, relatively lightweight, and close at hand. Today's woods aren't the same woods as grandpappy hunted in.
My favorite "small frame" woods gun that I use for fishing and backpacking is the S&W 60-10 3" .357 Magnum and has adjustable sights. The same gun is still made but called the 60-15 or 60-15 PRO.
Have shot everything in it from .38 Wadcutters to 180 grain .357 Magnum FMJ ammo...handles everything well.
if ya can hit with it one would be really ignorant to laugh at that choice.... my G32 is a lil powerhouse... I would not fear much in the lower 48 I will likely run into short of bigfoot-dogman or aliens
It sure would be hard to argue against the .357 in a lightweight package such as RJM52's outfit. Lots of power on tap, but excellent small game/wilderness survival capability. Shot loads in a 357/38spl work very well on small game, as do light loads with any kind of slug. All things considered, perhaps the "best"?
As much as I love the .44 magnum, it is usually a somewhat heavy gun to carry along with a long gun. The reason I got an EL Patron was to carry something lighter, but almost as capable. Sometimes I range far and wide, and every ounce does add up at the end of the day. But again, lately I've been moving towards a cap-n-ball revolver, or the Plains Pistol as my Woods Guns Cartridges (yes I can fire combustable cartridges!) of choice, if I have a long gun or powerful bow. I'm a fan of the spear, and would still choose the .45Colt, or .357 as a companion to it, and feel comfortable with that.
I joke a lot about getting jumped by wolves, and have always thought that was just a joke, but I just learned recently that very near where I hunt/hike/explore/trek/escape from the human race, and where there is a number of wolf packs, that this last October a guy did get jumped by a pack, and shot one with his rifle, which sent the others "packing". Game department cleared him of any charges or wrong doing. I have noticed them getting bolder over the years. But, I think just about any sidearm would take care of a wolf, so I'm not changing my "plan" as far as side-arm choice. Not going back to the .44Mag! (although I do like giving all my pistolas a chance at getting out and going for a hike) I agree that cougars and black bears want nothing to do with humans, but I've for sure changed my mind on the wolf situation.
I would prefer a K-frame double action or Colt sized SAA. Prefer to stick w/ something along the lines of a Mdl 10 or Ruger Vaquero in .45 Colt. .357 Magnum is absolutely ear splitting w/o ear protection. .38 Spl and .45 Colt are less so.
Sorry I'm late to the game on this one. I just missed the initial post somehow. If you hadn't mentioned Black Bear, I would have said 357, but because you mentioned a growing Black Bear population, I will suggest 44 magnum. 45 Colt or 41 magnum would also work, but those are most widely found in SA guns and, for animal defense, I would insist on a DA revolver.
For factory ammo, the HSM Bear Loads hard cast will do it all, but a good hollow point will handle everything except the bear. (You really need good penetration on a bear to get your projectile through to the vital organs.)
Then it sounds like fixed sights are ok...
Instead of going with the flow I have a different thought...gun is an L-frame size and shoots a round bigger than a .35, starts with a "4" and has a whole six beans in the wheel. "Specials" and "Magnums" are available... Also factory ammo is widely available.
The Ruger Match Champion in 10mm... I bought one right after they were announced...and it didn't disappoint...
Ammo for the 10mm runs from 135 to 220 grains. Can be had full strength or the milder "FBI" type lods that are in the 950-1000 fps area. 200 and 220 hard cast "Outdoorsman" type loads are available from several companies.
In addition the gun also runs the widely available and much less expensive .40 S&W...that would be your "Specials"... The factory moon clips (that don't have to be used when running 10mm as they headspace on the case mouth) are made for ease of loading/unloading and for reliable ignition a thicker clip is needed to correctly headspace the .40...they are readily available.
The standard gun comes with a 4.2" barrel but there was a run of 3" guns made with Novak sights. I only wish I had bought one last year when they were plentiful...
Anyway, for an all-around DA fairly compact revolver in a caliber that begins with "4" it is hard to beat...
Just a thought...Bob
I figure maybe southern Miss is about like north Florida in its critters and swampiness so maybe what works here will work there. I like a good .357 Magnum or strong action .38 Special for tromping around the woods here. A good, strong .32-20 is about the equal of a .38Spl properly loaded and a .327 Federal will do a lot of what a .357 will do. Not everything but most things. I'll carry a good single action any day over an auto-loaded but a good DA is as good as a good SA for most days. I don't carry anything so heavy it wants to pull my pants off, though.
Up top of the safe, middle is my Pietta .45 C&B smoker. I take it out once in a while to haul trash or do chores around the property when I don't want to carry something that will ring my ears for weeks but still has enough "punch" for a critter that gets too aggressive. Not really worried about black bears around here but wild dogs, coyotes and the occasional rabid fox or raccoon can be problems. If I did see a bear, I would try hard not to shoot it. They generally leave people alone unless they're sick, starved or get scared. Move slow and move away and don't try to stare them down and they most often wander off to mind their own business. At least, that's been my experience.
We just had our first wolf attack, here in the North East corner of Washington State, where I hunt. Pack surrounded a guy checking his traps and started closing in, and he shot one which sent the others away. I figure anything short of a .22LR would "discourage" an ornery wolf, so I still feel fine with my Remington Navy, or anything on up, wolf being more thin-skinned than a bear. On the other hand, they sure have been shooting some big wolves in Idaho and Montana. Some really huge ones.
Man, a bear hunt in Mane is on my bucket list. Probably with a revolver that starts with a “4,” not a 357
...That's my take on it as well. On the occasions when I'm in an area with a few bears and I'm not carrying a deer rifle.
... 180 gr. WFNGC and suitable dose of Accurate #9 powder in a .357 Blackhawk should keep bruins at bay. No Grizzlies around here to worry about and while I've seen Black Bears in the wild, I'll admit that every time I've seen one I was unarmed and they didn't seem interested in me. But when I'm in their neighborhood it's better to err on the side of caution.
Seconded! I don’t hunt with dogs. More the latter than the former reasoning but the same conclusion.
I recently traded for this Taurus Tracker 44 mag
actual weight on my scales 34oz ... listed as a 4 inch barrel , only 3 inches are rifled .. last inch in the barrel is a ported shroud ...
I purchased this as a 44 spl with the capability of using 44spl +p and 44mag .. @ 34 oz still very carry-able
I have always carried my Colt Diamondback .22 when bird hunting or deer/elk hunting because I had a long gun on me. Nice to plink or pop a squirrel.
If I'm scouting or going for a hike, I use to grab my Smith model 28 6" .357 but it was larger and cumbersome- yet it was more powerful than my Glock .40 duty gun. However, I put a 4" barrel on my .357 last year and that makes it more manageable. Still, it weighs 43 oz.
I had two six shot, 3" Charter Arms .38+P revolvers with adj sights made last year. Perfect kit gun that weighs 22-24oz depending on the grips. Nice to throw on and my wife likes shooting "her" gun.
My favorite now is my Ruger Flattop .44 spl with a 4-5/8" barrel and I took the steel grip frame and ERH off and replaced them with alloy that I reshaped. It is a handy package now that feels great in the hand, can pack a wallop and weighs less than 35oz.
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