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Wordy. Suggestions for improvement?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Oleg Volk, Aug 2, 2007.

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  1. Oleg Volk

    Oleg Volk Moderator Emeritus

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    Updated version. Thanks for the help.
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  2. NeoSpud

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    Maybe it's just me, but I like it just the way it is. Right to the point. Good job.
     
  3. Euclidean

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    What's the main point here? That guns are in fact not easily available as some claim they are, or that contemporary military rifles should be freely available on the free market?

    I'd think the focus should be on one point or the other if brevity is desired.
     
  4. Oleg Volk

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    That's the main point.
     
  5. busy_squirrel

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    maybe replace "easy availability" with "rampant prevalence" or some other phrase that "they" are commonly heard using
     
  6. Waywatcher

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    What gun is that? I would use a picture of an SMLE. Canadian, english, etc.
     
  7. Oleg Volk

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    It's a Canadian Ross rifle. It looks suitably "sporting" and "harmless".
     
  8. Euclidean

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    How's this for a starter?

    "Today, a Canadian could only buy this antique rifle with extensive paperwork and background checks.

    In 1907, anyone could have bought this rifle without either.
    Does that sound like "easy availability of guns?"

    I picked one nationality and edited out the point about modern military rifles. It's not perfect but it's more concise.
     
  9. DavidVS

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    Hm. Reverse it?

    "Guns are now too easily available? [picture] Purchasing this antique now requires thorough paperwork and a background check whereas in 1907 any Canadian, American, or Englishman could have purchased it as a modern military rifle without either."
     
  10. Oleg Volk

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    DavidVS, thank you for the idea
     
  11. busy_squirrel

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    Flows and sounds better now. But about those colors....;)
     
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    Politicians blame "easy availability"

    Today, buying this antique means federal background checks.

    100 years ago (or change to suit the venue...) any (pick one for venue) could buy a modern military rifle. Period.
     
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    Politicians blame "easy availability" of guns for crime

    100 years ago you could buy this army rifle in a hardware store

    Today, buying the same rifle requires federal forms and extensive background checks
     
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    You could do the exact same poster showing a Vickers or Maxim machine gun :D
     
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    Your grandfather could have ordered this through the mail without doing anything other than sending in his check.

    Yet politicians blame "easy availability of guns" for today's crime rates even with waiting periods, paperwork, background checks and outright bans on some guns.

    What's the real reason?
     
  16. Oleg Volk

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    Vickers?

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    But there's no shoes in the poster :p

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    Nice. But in its current form it relies on the assumption that gun crime is higher now than it was in 1907 - I think you need something there to prove that is the case or antis can shrug it off saying "well that's why society was so violent in 1907."
     
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    Should be "shootings" instead of "shooting", I believe.
     
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    I'd be hesitant to use a machine gun to try and make this point to a complete anti. Many antis seem to think that machine guns are bad, for a separate and wholly indescribable reason. Best to convince someone with small steps, than alienate with large leaps.
     
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    get rid of 'even' in even this antique

    you say background checks and paperwork, then later say 'without either'

    except you have a multiple background checks and paperwork, which is 3 things (change background checks to singular?)
     
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    Perhaps two areas of text (top & bottom half of image), divided by the gun. Would suggest either a bolt or lever rifle (common type).

    Top:
    _To buy this in 2007_
    > Federal background check
    > Extensive paperwork
    > 18+ only
    > x school shootings

    _To buy this in 1907_
    > No background check
    > No paperwork
    > No age restrictions
    > No school shootings
     
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    If we go by murder rate, the United States was slightly safer crimewise in 1907 than it is today:

    http://www.jrsa.org/programs/Historical.pdf
     
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    100 Years Ago (as modern technology)
    Purchased by anyone:
    -Of any age
    -With any criminal history
    -With any mental history
    -From anyone
    -From anywhere

    Now (as century old technology)
    Purchased by anyone:
    -No younger than 18 years of age
    -With no felony convictions
    -With no violent misdemeanor convictions
    -With no pending litigation
    -With no restraining orders against them
    -With no history of mental illness
    -...and who passes a federal background check
     
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