Workplace stupidity!

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Fine, your computer, your company, your rules...however, for the record, I find the people who constantly look at celebrity gossip to be disturbing. Their disconnect from reality makes me nervous. I assume you will take the same action with those people as you did with me, correct?

I suppose I might enjoy doing that... :evil:

But not until I had a new job lined up and certain... :uhoh:

Given the employment situation these days it doesn't pay to rattle chains unless you absolutely don't care. For the time being 1911 Operator should do what he's seems to be doing - find a better job and visit The High Road on other then his company computer. ;)
 
So who squealed?

"The High Road" name is not immediately suggestive of a forum related to firearms. Somebody had to be in close proximity looking and studying at what was on your computer. Or someone used the computer and looked at your browsing history.
 
My boss is the kind of guy that has stuffed game and exotic cartridges displayed in the conference rooms.

I don't foresee a problem.

Did he hunt that game on his own time or on company time?

If you work FOR someone, then you agree to abide by THEIR rules.....don't like their rules? Feel free to go somewhere else.....
 
Good reason to be self-employed, leave the BS behind

Yeah, this sort of stuff is why I decided to start my own business five years ago. Lack or privacy, arbitrariness over who was and who was not allowed to telecommute, "pointy-headed" bosses, raise freeze after '01 recession never lifted when the economy did ... and just generally hating cube life. I definitely work harder for myself than I did for "the Man" but the rewards are ever so much greater. And, when I get my CCW and my gun (I'm very new to this), I can carry 24/7 if I so choose. I'm the boss, I make the rules.

Meesh
 
I would have to agree with your company as this site is disturbing. The sight actually allows people to post things like its okay to go around armed waiting for trouble to happen but the sight actually condemds people who post facts that actual real police officers tell people to do. I seen a post today that really disturbed me but could not post on it as a mod had closed it but not for the distirbing part but because people were commenting on how stupid the thread was.
I myself check out the site just to see how far it has sunk and to see if anybody is actually doing something about it.
 
This thread brings to my mind the trend of blurring the line between company time and personal time. It seems to be growing. The boss says "We will allow you X" with the implication that you will repay with Y. I have a business degree and once considered myself a human resources management professoinal. The blurring of the distinction between work and leisure is one of the main reasons I no longer do what I did. This is a deeply emotinal subject for me as I see no good will come of this trend unless you are among a group of very like minded people who all share your "self actualization" goals. My advice is to step away form company resources if you are pursuing personal goals. Get a notebook if you want to surf the web or read a book. Unless you and your fellow workers are of the same mind keep your life and that of your employers and fellow workers seperate.
 
In my opinion, that’s excellent advice, especially if your hobby is firearms and you work for a company that has an urban orientated management or is large enough to have its own human resources department. Unfortunately workplace shooting, while they are rare, have polluted the well.

Of course there are individual exceptions, and I hope 1911 Operator finds one. In this respect I was lucky so there is hope.

Last but not least, if you're fed up and looking, check out states or cities that are known to be gun-friendly. You may make less money, but your life will be much more enjoyable.
 
Seems to me in this economy a smart person might bring a magazine or book to read if he needed to fill downtime. Surfing the web when you're supposed to be working seems like a good way to tell the boss who to layoff next.
 
My work blocks all forum sites. So I visit the THR at home. It is funny thought I can get on the S&W forum because the IT guy is a big S&W nutt. I would avoid the site all together at work and look for another job.
 
I'd say to them:

Fine, your computer, your company, your rules...however, for the record, I find the people who constantly look at celebrity gossip to be disturbing. Their disconnect from reality makes me nervous. I assume you will take the same action with those people as you did with me, correct?

I just can't imagine someone getting PO'd because they were called down for violating company policy and then has the gonads to insinuate that the manager has discriminated against him. The employer pays a person to do a certain job for X number of hours per day and that is what the person should be doing. If the work is slack, that is the time to catch up on the things that are required to do but are put off until, yes, when time is available. I was a manager that reported directly to a vice president for many years and I would have documented my discussion with the employee, for my job protection and the employee’s protection. It would be a very safe bet to say that the individual called on the carpet or the person that made the above quoted statement, for surfing the net has also been reprimanded for violating other company policy. I believe management, at this point, has started the groundwork/justification to terminate the individual and/or eliminate the position. I would recommend that the person should be looking for another job because this one is soon to be short lived.
 
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I don't see the issue as being web-surfing on the company's dime, as apparently it is allowed where 1911 Operator works. The issue is the employer's specific objection to firearm sites - which don't come under the heading of pornography except to certain people. It is also a stretch to say that an employee is a security risk simply because they show an interest in firearms.

If employers as a class decide that an employee’s interest in firearms automatically make them a danger – to be gotten rid of as soon as possible – a lot of members and visitors to this and other gun-related forums could be in serious – and unjustified – trouble.
 
The employer pays a person to do a certain job for X number of hours per day and that is what the person should be doing.
And a great deal of jobs involve standby time. For instance, at my job I'm as much there for emergency response as day-to-day operation. Not every job requires looking busy all the time.
 
Ask them for a list of "approved" websites to visit, or better yet, a list of ALL the websites that other employees have visited WITHOUT being warned. If you ever get that list, it would be very interesting. If they don't, you might ask what they have to hide...........
 
Maybe, just maybe you should just give your employer a fair's day's work and save the personal stuff until your on your own time!
 
And a great deal of jobs involve standby time. For instance, at my job I'm as much there for emergency response as day-to-day operation. Not every job requires looking busy all the time.

Then maybe you should be doing something to make you more valuable to your employer, like additional training or education instead of surfing the net
 
oneounceload, HA!
And the moment I finish that, I'll get another $0.00/hour raise, just like I have for all the other extra duties I've taken on beyond my contracted job description.

You seem to have missed the entire point, so I'll clarify ... It is possible to be on the clock and not have any particular duties assigned, beyond being available for emergency response.
If I'm on-call for:
-first aid
-fire brigade
-plant transient/trip
-HAZMAT response
-maintenance support
-confined space rescue​

I'll just go ahead and take a break in between:
-equipment operation
-plant tours
-safety tagout/lockout
-minor maintenance
-vibration monitoring
-performance testing​
as the opportunity presents itself.
 
God, I must have come from another world. I just can't see why a person that is being paid to do a job for x number of hours per day would be upset over being told to stay off the gun sites or any site. If I were the manager/boss/ supervisor of the individual I would fill out a employee violation of policy slip on the infraction and punishment, if any, have the individual sign it. If the individual again violates policy he would be walked out the door.........I have done it in the past and it has held up in court. There is always something that is job related to do when there is slack time.
 
chuck they allowed 1911op complete access. Then he is called on the carpet for surfing? I can see if it was an illegal or pornographic site, but I'd bet someone else in the office is scoping a sicko porn site (not a normal porn site) and they will get away with it. Since the company is cracking down on gun sites, wouldn't it be prudent to add MSN chat,twitter and facebook, as these are monumental bandwidth hogs and can be used to plan events.
 
One of my past jobs was similar to Bigfatdave's. I sat at a desk waiting for something to break in a production line, then fix it and document it. If there was any need for process improvement, log that as well.

this meant I often surfed computer forums (relevant to the job), screwed around on professional social networking sites (not completely relevant, but nobody minds...if it was myspace or facebook, they'd rightfully have issues with it), surfed cigar/pipe and hi-fi forums (totally irrelevant, but fairly inoffensive to others), then the knife forum I go to for multi-tool info (some took offense, but HR determined it was OK when I explained how I use multi-tools on the job, and would like to know when a new tool come out and if it would be better at the task than what I have....helps that I had no prior HR complaints either).

The key is selection in what off-topic activities we pursue in worktime. Some people are just paranoid, fearful creatures...we shouldn't provoke them when possible.
 
This thread ceased being about gun-specific discrimination/reaction in the workplace long ago, and instead became a debate on appropriate behavior in the workplace.

And so we are done with it.
 
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