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This is the worst example of whiny-@ss baloney I believe I've even seen. :barf:
To read the whole thing, go here:
http://www.thestranger.com/current/feature.html

THE URBAN ARCHIPELAGO
by The Editors of The Stranger

It's time to state something that we've felt for a long time but have been
too polite to say out loud: Liberals, progressives, and Democrats do not
live in a country that stretches from the Atlantic to the Pacific, from
Canada to Mexico. We live on a chain of islands. We are citizens of the
Urban Archipelago, the United Cities of America. We live on islands of
sanity, liberalism, and compassion--New York City, Chicago, Philadelphia,
Seattle, St. Louis, Minneapolis, San Francisco, and on and on. And we live
on islands in red states too--a fact obscured by that state-by-state map.
Denver and Boulder are our islands in Colorado; Austin is our island in
Texas; Las Vegas is our island in Nevada; Miami and Fort Lauderdale are
our islands in Florida. Citizens of the Urban Archipelago reject heartland
"values" like xenophobia, sexism, racism, and homophobia, as well as the
more intolerant strains of Christianity that have taken root in this
country.

And we are the real Americans. They--rural, red-state voters, the denizens
of the exurbs--are not real Americans. They are fools and hate-mongers.
Red Virginia prohibits any contract between same-sex couples.
Compassionate? Texas allows the death penalty to be applied to teenaged
criminals and has historically executed the mentally retarded. Dumb? The
Sierra Club has reported that Arkansas, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Alabama,
and Tennessee squander over half of their federal transportation money
on building new roads rather than public transit.

If Democrats and urban residents want to combat the rising tide of red
that threatens to swamp and ruin this country, we need a new identity
politics, an urban identity politics, one that argues for the cities, uses a
rhetoric of urban values, and creates a tribal identity for liberals that's as
powerful and attractive as the tribal identity Republicans have created for
their constituents. John Kerry won among the highly educated, Jews,
young people, gays and lesbians, and non-whites. What do all these
groups have in common? They choose to live in cities. An overwhelming
majority of the American popuation chooses to live in cities. And John
Kerry won every city with a population above 500,000. He took half the
cities with populations between 50,000 and 500,000. The future success
of liberalism is tied to winning the cities. An urbanist agenda may not be a
recipe for winning the next presidential election--but it may win the
Democrats the presidential election in 2012 and create a new Democratic
majority.


*

In cities all over America, distressed liberals are talking about fleeing to
Canada or, better yet, seceding from the Union. We can't literally secede
and, let's admit it, we don't really want to live in Canada. It's too cold up
there and in our heart-of-hearts we hate hockey. We can secede
emotionally, however, by turning our backs on the heartland. We can
focus on our issues, our urban issues, and promote our shared urban
values. We can create a new identity politics, one that transcends class,
race, sexual orientation, and religion, one that unites people living in cities
with each other and with other urbanites in other cities. The Republicans
have the federal government--for now. But we've got Seattle, Portland,
San Francisco, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Diego, New York City
(Bloomberg is a Republican in name only), and every college town in the
country. We're everywhere any sane person wants to be.

*

To all those progressives, liberals, and Democrats who live in cities, we
say take heart. Clearly we can't control national politics right now--we can
barely get a hearing. We can, however, stay engaged in our cities, and
make our voices heard in the urban areas we dominate, and make each
and every one, to quote Ronald Reagan (and John Winthrop, the 17th-
century Puritan Reagan was parroting), "a city on a hill." This is not a
retreat; it is a long-term strategy for the Democratic Party to cater to
and build on its base.

To red-state voters, to the rural voters, residents of small, dying towns,
and soulless sprawling exburbs, we say this: Your issues are no
longer our issues. We're going to battle our bleeding-heart instincts and
ignore pangs of misplaced empathy. We will no longer concern ourselves
with a health care crisis that disproportionately impacts rural areas.
Instead we will work toward winning health care one blue state at a time.

When it comes to the environment, our new policy is this: Let the
heartland live with the consequences of handing the national government
to the rape-and-pillage party. The only time urbanists should concern
themselves with the environment is when we are impacted--directly, not
spiritually (the depressing awareness that there is no unspoiled wilderness
out there doesn't count). Air pollution, for instance: We should be
aggressive. If coal is to be burned, it has to be burned as cleanly as
possible so as not to foul the air we all have to breathe. But if West
Virginia wants to elect politicians who allow mining companies to lop off
the tops off mountains and dump the waste into valleys and streams,
thus causing floods that destroy the homes of the yokels who vote for
those politicians, it no longer matters to us. ???? the mountains in West
Virginia--send us the power generated by cleanly burned coal, you rubes,
and be sure to wear lifejackets to bed.

Wal-Mart is a rapacious corporation that pays sub-poverty-level wages,
offers health benefits to its employees that are so expensive few can
afford them, and destroys small towns and rural jobs. Liberals in big cities
who have never seen the inside of a Wal-Mart spend a lot of time worrying
about the impact Wal-Mart is having on the heartland. No more. We will
do what we can to keep Wal-Mart out of our cities and, if at all possible,
out of our states. We will pass laws mandating a living wage for full-time
work, upping the minimum wage for part-time work, and requiring large
corporations to either offer health benefits or pay into state- or city-run
funds to provide health care for uninsured workers. That will reform Wal-
Mart in our blue cities and states or, better yet, keep Wal-Mart out
entirely. And when we see something on the front page of the national
section of the New York Times about the damage Wal-Mart is doing to the
heartland, we will turn the page. Wal-Mart is not an urban issue.

We won't demand that the federal government impose reasonable fuel-
efficiency standards on all cars sold in the United States. We will,
however, strive to pass state laws, as California has done, imposing fuel-
efficiency standards on cars sold in our states.

We officially no longer care when family farms fail. Fewer family
farms equal fewer rural voters. We will, however, continue to support
small faggy organic farms, as we are willing to pay more for free-range
chicken and beef from non-cannibal cows.

We won't concern ourselves if red states restrict choice. We'll just make
sure that abortion remains safe and legal in the cities where we live, and
the states we control, and when your daughter or sister or mother dies in
a botched abortion, we'll try not to feel too awful about it.

*

The truth is that rural states--the same red states that vote reflexively
Republican in national elections--are welfare states. While red-state voters
like to complain about "tax-and-spend liberals," red states are hopelessly
dependent on the largess of the federal government to prop up their
dwindling rural population. Red states like North Dakota, New Mexico,
Mississippi, Alaska, West Virginia, Montana, Alabama, South Dakota, and
Arkansas top the list of federal spending per dollar of federal taxes paid.
And who's paying the most? Blue states. Cities--and states dominated by
their cities. Welfare states, in contrast, demand federal money to fund
wasteful roads to nowhere. Welfare states guzzle barrel upon barrel of oil
so their rural residents can sputter along on ribbons of asphalt.

Take a state like Wyoming, the arid, under-populated home of our
glowering vice president Dick Cheney. Wyoming receives the second-
highest amount of federal aid in the nation per capita (Alaska, another red
state, is number one), and it ranks second lowest in federal taxes paid
(behind only South Dakota). Overall, the federal government spent about
$2,413 per capita in Wyoming for the fiscal year 2002 (the last year for
which data is available), compared with almost exactly half that amount,
or $1,205 per capita, for Washington State. This ridiculous disparity
extends even to Homeland Security funds, which ought to be targeted
toward the most vulnerable areas--coastlines, big city landmarks, porous
borders. But landlocked Wyoming, with exactly zero important strategic
targets, merits $38.31 per capita in Homeland Security funds. New York
state residents get a measly $5.47. An urban agenda would argue for
kicking Wyoming off the federal dole. States should pay their own way,
not come to cities begging for handouts.

*

You've made your choice, red America, and we urban Americans are going
to make a different choice. We are going to make Seattle--and New York,
Chicago, and the rest--a great place to live, a progressive place. Again,
we'll quote Ronald Reagan: We will make each of our cities--each and
every one--a shining city on a hill.


Read the rest of this piece here:
http://www.thestranger.com/current/feature.html
 
Wait, so let me get this right... They are basically saying that they are going to leave us alone?


:D

Finally!
 
And John
Kerry won every city with a population above 500,000.

Factually incorrect. There are numerous cities with populations exceeding 500,000 that John Kerry lost. Off the top of my head, I can think of Houston, Dallas, and Ft. Worth.
 
Bring it on!

I've said for years (decades, really) that it is a urban vs. rural thing. It would be so easy to use his/her format to make the same points with conclusions that are 180 degrees opposite. :rolleyes: It's funny really.
 
Correia said:
Wait, so let me get this right... They are basically saying that they are going to leave us alone?

No. They want to impose their views on entire blue states, even if it is only one city that turned the state blue.
 
You know, when I think about about the many years I spent as a Democrat, I'm proud of the caliber of people who carried that banner.

In the years since, my politics have changed, obviously, and I've drifted farther and farther from the Democratic fold, to the point where I now consider myself to be very close to Republican.

It both shocks me and saddens me when I realize that the successors to men such as Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, and Johnson are nothing more than a pack of whining, moaning imbeciles.

At one time the Democrats knew the pulse of this nation, and were unafraid to do great and important things.

Now all they can do is rest on their laurels and wonder why people have deserted them.

Which leads me to ask...

Who has deserted whom?
 
So city folk don't need rural folk. I wonder if they'll believe that when the only thing they have to eat after the divorce is their so called superior values.
 
I stopped reading right here:
"And we are the real Americans. They--rural, red-state voters, the denizens
of the exurbs--are not real Americans. They are fools and hate-mongers."
Utter Garbage. I think what the author is really trying to say is that those who do not think and act like he does aren't "real Americans." I'm sorry he has to live in a country where not everyone thinks and acts like him. Maybe he should get a grip.
 
Suddenly Wickard v. Filburn and its progeny aren't looking so hot, are they? Damn hypocrits, suddenly they aren't calling the shots and now states' rights is no longer to be maligned as a code word for racists.

And personally, this claim about disparity of spending is really starting to annoy me- its about as truthful as Kerry's claim that the average family has lost $9,000 in ioncome power since Bush took office; it doesn't pass muster once you actually think about it. Of course Wyoming is going to have more per capita when a lot of spending (on parks, on highways that benefit the nation, even a minimum level of effective security) is probably done regardless of population.

You can blast Bush for a lot of stuff, so stick to that. Don't make what few good points you might have get lost in your erroneous desire to to go for the political SUPER SLAM of angst and pissy-ness.
 
You know, I think this is a very, very important article. It shows very clearly just how the Liberal "elite" ( :barf: ) are thinking. I think every member of THR should read this article in full, and forward it to their friends. The more it is circulated, the more America will realize how dangerous such people can be.

Go to the linked article, and read all three pages of it. It's time well spent! "Know Your Enemy" remains a very valid rule of life...

:mad:
 
I don't think this is indicative of your average left-leaning citizen. What it is indicative of is the fact that the left has its fair share of dogma-engulfed idealogues. It's a myth that the entire left is comprised of scientifically-thinking, rational individuals, just as it is a myth that the right is comprised entirely of religious radicals who eschew rational thought and embrace dogma entirely.

The only clear difference is that on the left, dogma is not always overtly religious.
 
So where are they going to get their food from? What are they going to do with the garbage they produce? Does that mean people will no longer be leaving the city to get some fresh air? Enquiring minds want to know.
 
We should negotiate with Canada to speed up the immigration process. Then they can get the hell out if they don't like democracy.

Hell, they should all move to Cuba, no election suprises there, that's for sure.
 
Dumb? The Sierra Club has reported that Arkansas, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Alabama, and Tennessee squander over half of their federal transportation money on building new roads rather than public transit.
No, honey. "Dumb" would be putting mass transit in places where the population is so spread out that private vehicles are the only sensible transportation solution.

pax

The fact that nobody asks you to sing is not an indication that you should sing louder. This sounds obvious until it's applied to matters like mass transportation. There are virtually no private mass transit companies. This does not represent the failure of the market to provide a needed service, it represents the failure of an unneeded service to go away! -- L. Neil Smith
 
They are fools and hate-mongers.
I'm a hate monger? I'm not the one calling people names, constantly calling the President an idiot, or threatening to forget about the entire rest of the country just because they have a different opinion.

We officially no longer care when family farms fail.
Then what are you going to eat, moron? (ok, so maybe I am calling people names. But they deserve it. ;) )

But landlocked Wyoming, with exactly zero important strategic targets
So, Warren Air Force Base isn't considered a strategic target? All those nuclear missle silos? And I don't suppose any of that federal spending went towards Yellowstone National Park. Aren't you liberals always whining about saving the environment?
 
What cracks me up is the line, "These people choose to live in cities." As though people who live in cities are superior to those who live in the country ... Yet, those who can afford to live the cities when they retire inevitably leave for country living. Let's all hope that these liberal city folks never find out just how much better the quality of life is in the country or more rural, less-congested and less-populated areas.
 
Ooh, and I missed this gem...

Neither is gun control. Our new position: We'll fight to keep guns off the streets of our cities, but the more guns lying around out there in the heartland, the better.

Great! So when the starving city-folk revolt and try to come after our food, we'll be armed and they won't! :evil:
 
JPL said:
You know, when I think about about the many years I spent as a Democrat, I'm proud of the caliber of people who carried that banner.

In the years since, my politics have changed, obviously, and I've drifted farther and farther from the Democratic fold, to the point where I now consider myself to be very close to Republican.

It both shocks me and saddens me when I realize that the successors to men such as Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, and Johnson are nothing more than a pack of whining, moaning imbeciles.

At one time the Democrats knew the pulse of this nation, and were unafraid to do great and important things.

Now all they can do is rest on their laurels and wonder why people have deserted them.

Which leads me to ask...

Who has deserted whom?


Thats pretty much what Zell Miller said after the elections.
 
What do you expect when blue-state liberals get their hands on a computer without any adult supervision?

But really, it is instructive to get a mainline dose of the pure, unadulterated, actual stuff to remind us all just what these folks are really like.

I think this passage is the most telling:


"But why should liberals in cities fund organizations that attempt, to take one example, to get trigger locks onto the handguns of NRA members out there in red states? If red-state dads aren't concerned enough about their own children to put trigger locks on their own guns, it's not our problem. If a kid in a red state finds his daddy's handgun and blows his head off, we'll feel terrible (we're like that), but we'll try to look on the bright side: At least he won't grow up to vote like his dad. "



hillbilly
 
Citizens of the Urban Archipelago reject heartland
"values" like xenophobia, sexism, racism, and homophobia, as well as the
more intolerant strains of Christianity that have taken root in this
country.


Not to mention rejecting degenerate "heartland" concepts like; personal responsibility, self defense, sexual morality, freedom, patriotism, hard work, private property, fair competition, a color blind society, reverence, and simple common sense.
 
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RavenVT100 said:
I stopped reading right here:

Utter Garbage. I think what the author is really trying to say is that those who do not think and act like he does aren't "real Americans." I'm sorry he has to live in a country where not everyone thinks and acts like him. Maybe he should get a grip.


Amen Brother! What a load of fecal matter. :fire: :banghead: :cuss: Its a shame we can't just move all of "Them" into one large city/state and leave the rest of the USA to "Us".
 
The democratic party continues its slide into communism...

I was talking to the owner of the business I work for (a gent of 72 years) and I was treated to a history of how the Democrats lost their way. This man is now an avid republican, simply because the ideals of his previous party have drifted so far from what they were. There is something to be said with adapting to the times, but in this case its not evolution, but regression into socialism. Sad.

-What is the difference between a liberal and a puppy?---The puppy stops whining when it grows up.
 
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"The future success of liberalism is tied to winning the cities. An urbanist agenda may not be a recipe for winning the next presidential election--but it may win the Democrats the presidential election in 2012 and create a new Democratic majority."

Is this guy under the impression that the presidency is won through the popular vote. 2012 is going to be a very big year for the south. After the 2010 census, the south will gain even more electoral votes due to the massive increases in population we have seen. Or maybe the author doesn't realize that there will even be a census. Maybe the author is one of them ignorant types that thinks the national popular vote matters.
 
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