Would you buy a CMP Remington Rand for $1450

I’m not good with lottery or luck. So having a CMP with paperwork and such! $1450-ish (not saying what I paid) sign me up for another clean matching one! I prefer the non-refinished ones tho, even with good quality wear! oooh yeah
I think that was an excellent deal. CMP papers are provenance documentation, and while the finish is mostly gone, it didn't appear to have pitting or rust, and if you got a matching gun that hadn't been re-arsenaled, the person who got it from CMP was in the minority. I'd expect current prices for a gun like that to be $1,500+.
 
Hey Mark. How long before you have the gun in hand?

I’ve been on the hunt for A 1911A1 for a few years, but still haven’t seen one in the wild. I did find a second 1911 a few years ago. My buddy that owns a pawn shops bought the 1911 with me in mind. He offered it to me at $1300. He said that he bought it for $1100 and was going to price it at $1900 if I didn’t want to buy it.
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If you don’t have a correct magazine for the gun, let me know and I’ll search my secret stash , I might have one.
 
Hey Mark. How long before you have the gun in hand?

I’ve been on the hunt for A 1911A1 for a few years, but still haven’t seen one in the wild. I did find a second 1911 a few years ago. My buddy that owns a pawn shops bought the 1911 with me in mind. He offered it to me at $1300. He said that he bought it for $1100 and was going to price it at $1900 if I didn’t want to buy it.
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If you don’t have a correct magazine for the gun, let me know and I’ll search my secret stash , I might have one.
Shop has 90 day layaway, got a few guns in the pipeline to pay off…. so probably in hand in 5-8 weeks

thanks for the magazine offer, another member is sending me some. 😊!!

will definitely be looking for more wartime 1911A1’s! they are COOL
 
Hey Mark. How long before you have the gun in hand?

I’ve been on the hunt for A 1911A1 for a few years, but still haven’t seen one in the wild. I did find a second 1911 a few years ago. My buddy that owns a pawn shops bought the 1911 with me in mind. He offered it to me at $1300. He said that he bought it for $1100 and was going to price it at $1900 if I didn’t want to buy it.
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If you don’t have a correct magazine for the gun, let me know and I’ll search my secret stash , I might have one.
Did I emphasized How Cool those old War Birds are!!!
 
will definitely be looking for more wartime 1911A1’s! they are COOL
Hey Mark, if you or anyone has interest I have another old US Govt 1911 and when I say 1911 that is what it is. The gun is a Colt manufacture wartime 1911 but WWI not WW2. The gun sports a 5 digit serial number with, according to Colt, a 1914 manufacture so yes, a 5 digit serial on a third year production of the 1911. :)

While not quite great the gun is fair. It does shoot but could use some correct parts like a backstrap with the lanyard ring. This is not anyone's safe queen. It was going to be a project gun but the reality is I will never get to it.

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It now has wood grips. :) Should anyone have interest let me know and I will post more pictures. Like I mentioned this gun is far from perfect. No clue what a fair asking price would be.

Ron
 
Hey Mark, if you or anyone has interest I have another old US Govt 1911 and when I say 1911 that is what it is. The gun is a Colt manufacture wartime 1911 but WWI not WW2. The gun sports a 5 digit serial number with, according to Colt, a 1914 manufacture so yes, a 5 digit serial on a third year production of the 1911. :)

While not quite great the gun is fair. It does shoot but could use some correct parts like a backstrap with the lanyard ring. This is not anyone's safe queen. It was going to be a project gun but the reality is I will never get to it.

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It now has wood grips. :) Should anyone have interest let me know and I will post more pictures. Like I mentioned this gun is far from perfect. No clue what a fair asking price would be.

Ron
get some more detailed photos in the sunlight with that bad boy!! we would love to see it!
 
Honestly don't think that one is in all that great a shape myself. I would pay the asking price if it had a lot more of the original parkerized finish, but looks like there's none left on that one?
I own a 1943 dated Remngton-Rand Camp Perry match pistol. It of course lived a gentle life, and is in excellent condition. I have pictures from Camp Perry of the owner getting his trophy, and also a shooting kit with extra barrels, magazines, and some small parts that came with it. It belonged to a Navy officer who shot on the Navy-Marines team.

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get some more detailed photos in the sunlight with that bad boy!! we would love to see it!
Otay, I dug it out and here it is:
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The serial number is 68950 which is 1914 pre WWI. Hard to see but in the first image there is minor pitting on the forward slide. I was at my local gun shop where I help out occasionally and the kid working there offered me $600 which I see as fair. The gun does shoot. My understanding is originally these guns were blued finish and the finish is well worn away. Not train wreck but not quite very good. I put the gun as fair give or take. The gun needs a correct backstrap as I mentioned earlier and correct grips. I could have done better pictures if I would have used my macro lens. :) I told the kid at the shop he could have it. I will never get to it.

Ron
 
I would not pay that much for a 1911 because of nostalgia or a piece of history. I'll spend 2 grand easily on a brand spanking new 1911 that has not been fondled by so many dirty filthy hands who knows where they have been. That is just me.
 
I would not pay that much for a 1911 because of nostalgia or a piece of history. I'll spend 2 grand easily on a brand spanking new 1911 that has not been fondled by so many dirty filthy hands who knows where they have been. That is just me.
I feel the same way with New 1911’s thats been on the shelves for Years. Germs all over it. They have a shop with Les Baers and one has been in the shelve for 6-8+ years. Everyone and their grandmother touched it
 
I feel the same way with New 1911’s thats been on the shelves for Years. Germs all over it. They have a shop with Les Baers and one has been in the shelve for 6-8+ years. Everyone and their grandmother touched it
Pretty sure, driving for Uber picking up drunks, your backseat resembles a bar toilet seat. And you're worried about the germs on a Les Baer???
 
I want to shoot my firearms. Blasting rounds through an old military pistol, made of plain carbon steels, and possibly teetering on the edge of a firearm grave, does not make economic sense.

These Tisas pistols are new, produced on CNC equipment, mine are reliable, and before taxes $350.00. They are close enough to GI that I have had the "real experience". And I can say, GI sights are god awful bad. They were developed for punching holes in round circles on square targets at 25 yards. They work well (for 20 something eyes) in that role because the primary hold was 6 OC, but a thin front allows hold off at 5 OC, 3OC, etc, as needed to adjust for offset of sights. As self defense sights, they are awful.

Another thing about these Tisas pistols, they are made from an 4140 equivalent, hardened before machining, which provides the promise of a longer wear life. GI slides were hardened two inches from the nose. The frame was unhardened. The steels used, 1035 used in the frame is close to the cheap steels used on rail road spikes, and 1055 is used on lawn mover blades because it is tough, and cheap, cheap, cheap. GI pistols only had to last 5000 or 6000 rounds, so the lowest grade materials which would meet requirements, were used in the manufacturer of GI pistols. And that includes the rifles! Don't fool yourself thinking the things were built to last. They were built to the lowest price point that met lifetime requirements.


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materials used GI pistols


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this is what you can expect to happen to a GI slide between 10,000 and 20,000 rounds.

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I want to shoot my firearms. Blasting rounds through an old military pistol, made of plain carbon steels, and possibly teetering on the edge of a firearm grave, does not make economic sense.

These Tisas pistols are new, produced on CNC equipment, mine are reliable, and before taxes $350.00. They are close enough to GI that I have had the "real experience". And I can say, GI sights are god awful bad. They were developed for punching holes in round circles on square targets at 25 yards. They work well (for 20 something eyes) in that role because the primary hold was 6 OC, but a thin front allows hold off at 5 OC, 3OC, etc, as needed to adjust for offset of sights. As self defense sights, they are awful.

Another thing about these Tisas pistols, they are made from an 4140 equivalent, hardened before machining, which provides the promise of a longer wear life. GI slides were hardened two inches from the nose. The frame was unhardened. The steels used, 1035 used in the frame is close to the cheap steels used on rail road spikes, and 1055 is used on lawn mover blades because it is tough, and cheap, cheap, cheap. GI pistols only had to last 5000 or 6000 rounds, so the minimum materials to make that, were used in the pistols. Don't fool yourself thinking the things were built to last. They were built to the lowest price point that met lifetime requirements.


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P2LUUHi.jpeg


materials used GI pistols


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this is what you can expect to happen to a GI slide between 10,000 and 20,000 rounds.

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1TyKMl7.jpeg

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LOVE shooting my T-Sauce 1911A1!

point taken
 
I have only seen one cracked slide in person. The owner was distressed to have it pointed out to him.

I haven't shot my 1911/1918/AA in ages, not for fear of breakage but because of the above mentioned invisible sights.

Seems like there would be a market for antiqued grips to go on used guns. And it would be nice if the lineup included 1911A1 fully checkered grips.
 
I have only seen one cracked slide in person. The owner was distressed to have it pointed out to him.

I haven't shot my 1911/1918/AA in ages, not for fear of breakage but because of the above mentioned invisible sights.

Seems like there would be a market for antiqued grips to go on used guns. And it would be nice if the lineup included 1911A1 fully checkered grips.
It cab be wielded back. I’m definitely going to shoot my RR because I enjoy shooting vintage guns. The made millions of them, enjoy it before your heirs sell it for a Yoga Machine
 
I have only seen one cracked slide in person. The owner was distressed to have it pointed out to him.

I haven't shot my 1911/1918/AA in ages, not for fear of breakage but because of the above mentioned invisible sights.

Seems like there would be a market for antiqued grips to go on used guns. And it would be nice if the lineup included 1911A1 fully checkered grips.
Go purchase the Tisas walnut grips: they have an antique look right out of the box!



It cab be wielded back.
You can take that risk if you are the welder. The risk is, that slide breaks right through that weld, or near it, and the slide rear goes into the shooter's face.

Pick a face. Which one would you like to be? These are WW1 casts of faces of living WW1 causalities.

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The casts were used to make a face mask, here is one being painted so the soldier is presentable in public

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If I was the welder, I would write the serial number down, give you a copy of a note stating that the slide is un repairable, and keep a copy of that note for my own records. Just in case the person who wanted their slide welded needs money for reconstructive surgery.

Those WW2 pistols had a certain level of interchangeably, I frequently read on 1911forum posters who are building 1911's from parts. Tisas will sell a new service slide assembly for $189.95. That is a far safer approach to a slide replacement than attempting to weld a cracked frame.
 
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Go purchase the Tisas walnut grips: they have an antique look right out of the box!




You can take that risk if you are the welder. The risk is, that slide breaks right through that weld, or near it, and the slide rear goes into the shooter's face.

Pick a face. Which one would you like to be? These are WW1 casts of faces of living WW1 causalities.

YkedGdN.jpeg


The casts were used to make a face mask, here is one being painted so the soldier is presentable in public

Yocb2Mv.jpeg


If I was the welder, I would write the serial number down, give you a copy of a note stating that the slide is un repairable, and keep a copy of that note for my own records. Just in case the person who wanted their slide welded needs money for reconstructive surgery.

Those WW2 pistols had a certain level of interchangeably, I frequently read on 1911forum posters who are building 1911's from parts. Tisas will sell a new service slide assembly for $189.95. That is a far safer approach to a slide replacement than attempting to weld a cracked frame.
Dang you are graphic! have you consider writing? horror short stories is your forte
 
If it's a CMP 1911 looks like a field grade. 1050 or 1150 Depending on which round it was purchased. Now parts play into values as well. After war Replacement barrel and all that factors in. Depends on how bad you want it. That's max out price imo and I personally would pass. Some don't care they just want a WW been there done that 1911...

I vote field grade also. Service grade would probably be re-parkerized with mismatched slide and frame. I have one of those from round 1. RR frame, Colt slide. Paid $1050 for it.

I'm going to get in on round 5 when it happens and order a field grade hoping to get one like the one pictured. No guarantees.

Someone will buy that one for that price sooner or later. Personally it just seems too easy to get one from the CMP for a lot less money.
 
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