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Would you buy a Knight?

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Tim the student, Dec 8, 2010.

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  1. Tim the student

    Tim the student Member

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    I'm in the process of doing some research on my first (inexpensive) muzzleloader to buy. As part of that, I stopped by Scheels today, and saw that they had a couple supposedly new Knights.

    Would you hesitate to buy one? As far as I can tell, the company, and their products were well respected before they went out of business. But, I don't know of any muzzleloader gunsmiths near me, and I don't really know much about them. I think I could probably figure out how to change parts out if I needed to and had diagrams etc, but I'm a bit leery of buying something that has zero CS anymore.

    So, what are your thoughts?

    FWIW, I'm also thinking about a CVA Wolf, or a Traditions Buckstalker. TC's are a bit out of my price range. All I'd want to do is to be able to kill a deer yearly with one at about 130 yards or less, and to figure out if muzzleloader hunting is something that I like without popping $600 on a rifle.
     
  2. Mr_Pale_Horse

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    Yes.

    They are still in business, supporting old models, and are starting to make a few high end rifles.

    There are still Buckhorns and a few Wolverines to be had NIB.
     
  3. Tim the student

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    Mr Pale Horse, thanks. I'd read that they were out of business, but didn't take the time to actually look for myself.

    For the benefit of others, here is what they say about their warranty:
     
  4. andrewstorm

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    out with the old in with the new Tim

    I recently decided to buy American ,Thompson center omega z 5 was my choice,and Ive taken a deer at long range with it already, it prints and is of no- nonsense-design,with scope kit it was less than $400.00 and is a cut above any Spanish in line gun made,Ive made 150 yard running shots with both cva and t c guns and the Tc seems more consistent,and well built,the knight guns are on sale for next to nothing,finding the disk for knight rifles is near impossible,the t c line is top's ,with the exception of the impact,whose breakdown action is loose from the factory,but with a 199.00 price tag they are sure to sell out as they have at bass pro,cabelas, good luck with your decision:cool:
     
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  5. GeoffC

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    Id have a Knight over any of the others.

    In my opinion they made/make one of the best inlines.
     
  6. Mr_Pale_Horse

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    I'd take a T/C over Traditions any day,even a good used T/C.
    Yes,I'd buy a Knight,they are very good shooters.I'd worry about parrs when the time came...you can find anything on the internet just about.
     
  8. MacDuff

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    I have three and I am keeping them. The only down side is finding the red primer cups.
     
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    I'd buy one in a heartbeat. I almost bought one from a pawn shop, used, for 85 bucks. It wouldn't stay cocked. Perhaps the sear adjustment had been adjusted too far. Problem is, the salesman noticed the problem before I got to get my hands on it, and wouldn't sell it to me, for fear of liability issues.
    It was an earlier Knight, and I would have loved to have it.
    Oh well, at least I got my TC Thunder Hawk for $30 or $40, and it has a Timney trigger in it. The danged trigger is worth more than I paid for the gun.
     
  10. ontarget

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    My son has an older Knight that uses musket caps. it has always been a fine shooter. I would buy one any day!
     
  11. joachim slim

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    Knight

    If its a Knight rifle... buy it! There is no problem finding the red fitting for the 209 primers. If you get an older knight use #11 primers or contact their parts dept. and get the conversion to 209. They are all tack drivers and never fail (as long as you do your part, maintenance...etc.). There is no reason to spend the extra $$ for anything else.
     
  12. arcticap

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    Knight was bought out by a "white knight" - a private company that intends to manufacture new products again. There was an announcement at the time:

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=517411&highlight=knight

    I bought a used .36 Wolverine within the past year, so the answer is yes, depending on the model and which features that it has that I like about it:

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=497811&highlight=wolverine

    A person can buy any number of discontinued rifles and still not be able to obtain any replacement parts for them, including those made by such brand names as Pedersoli and Remington. ;)
     
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  13. GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL

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    I have owned 2 Knight rifles in years gone by. Both of them were the same and they both used caps. They both shot real fine, but I just prefer the .45 as opposed to the .50..Both of these were .50's..He was wounded and handicapped to a certain degree with the U.S. Army over in WesPac. He returned to Arkansas and with some help he designed the rifle. The ones I owned (bought in '85 and '86) were called the MK 85 .50 caliber. The MK 85 was named after his daughter Michelle and went into production in '85..No complaints on the rifles as far as I'm concerned other than the fact they were .50's....
     
  14. andrewstorm

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    knight m l rifles ,would you...........

    who knows maybe they'll make a better rifle,in Daniel boons neck o the woods,and it might be pretty,as well,the prototype for the modern in line sure was ugly,I like a gun that appeals to the eye,the knight wolverine ? I saw at dunhams was homely,and not worth the $100 00 price tag the bolt had been misplaced and the new one hadn't been fitted, and they do not carry plastic inserts for knight rifles..............and so it goes,I prefer convenience,and I'm sure there other ways to seal a breach,other than plastic Inserts........the man Who started knight supposedly was an investor that stole the idea from a mi.gunsmith,and former secret service agent,who tried to sue knight unsuccessfully for years,the poor guys bitter an who wouldnt be..........................................................
     
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  15. BHP FAN

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    no. anything I buy will be wood and steel with a hammer.
     
  16. CoRoMo

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    Bought a stainless DISC a few years ago at a steal of a price.

    Should have bought two.
     
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