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Would you carry during a Wake/Funeral?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Rockrivr1, Aug 24, 2005.

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  1. Rockrivr1

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    I had to attend a wake tonight for my Fiance's uncle. She was very close to him as were a LOT of people. The line at the wake was out the door and down the street for close to three hours. As I've indicated recently I just started to CCW and I was carrying a 642 in a Rosen IWB Tuckable holster. I was wearing a dress shirt over it tucked into Dockers. The problem is that there were so many people standing and sitting all over the place that several times I noticed someone looking at the small bulge on my hip when I was standing up and they were sitting down. Not to mention that people were bumping into each other all over the place. I must of been bumped right on my CCW at least 10 different times. No one said anything, but I'm pretty sure a number of people figured it out.

    Now, I'm not to comfortable carrying tomorrow during the funeral. I will be wearing a suit tomorrow so it will be hidden better, but I wonder if the ones that noticed will be looking or not. You know the old saying of they told two friend who told two friends. Maybe I'm just being paranoid.

    Hummmmm, what do you think?
     
  2. GregGry

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    When I become a cop, I will either have my firearm on the side holster, or concealed, everywere I go. If it means I am at my own wedding packing, or at a funeral so be it. Since my family knows I am going to be a cop, its a little bit diffrent, they expect me to be carrying when I visit. As a normal civilian, it might be diffrent, especially if your family has a bunch of anit gun people. Some people might take it as a lack of respect, but I don't think thats the case.
     
  3. JamisJockey

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    People have so many gadgets these days (PDA's, cells, pagers), that an inadvertant bump isn't usually going to out ya.
    Also, why do you carry? To protect yourself from people who wish to do you harm? You can encounter those people at any time in your life. On the way to the funeral, coming out of the funeral home...
     
  4. GregGry

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    Yes my thoughts exactly. Idiots can be found everywhere, why take chances?
     
  5. Taurus 66

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    Go to a funeral unarmed; pay your respects; leave the funeral home; get confronted by a madman; get killed; back in you go.
     
  6. ExtremeDooty

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    Being new to carrying, it's more than likely that the people you thought were looking at your CCW and figuring it out, were doing no such thing and had no idea or were even thinking about your CCW. You were probably the only one thinking about it and inferring way too much from their "looks." Anyone that did figure it out was probably carrying too.

    Just keep wearing it and you'll get used to it. And keep in mind that you are not doing anything wrong or illegal.
     
  7. The Freeholder

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    Nothing. Illegal to CC in NC at funerals. Beats me why, though. Of course, a lot of the places we're prohibited from carrying beat me.
     
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  9. GregGry

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    ^ What about in a hot tub.. Or do you have a glock? :D ;)
     
  10. rick_reno

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    I carry ALL the time, except where prohibited by law.
     
  11. P95Carry

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    Would I carry!? You bet your sweet bippy!!

    I can and will carry 16/7 unless debarred by legal impositions.

    Thus I will attend a funeral, a wake, a wedding, a christening - anything - and I WILL be carrying. if I have to downsize to what might be BUG I will but one way or another, I WILL have on my person - a gun!!

    For me carry is commitment - total - which means all times all places I legally can - and I make no apologies! :)
     
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    I believe my life and property are worth defending even at funerals.
     
  13. shield20

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    You should carry whenever you can. Nothing about carrying a gun ANYWHERE should be seen as disrespectful. As others said, you will probably realize soon enough that most people don't notice anything. IF people do realize more people are carrying, and are responsible, normal, etc., maybe more people will get used to the idea - then we can be more comfortable too!

    And besides - you are wearing a suit - nice EASY concealment!
     
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    Another assurance that even the bumpers were 90% oblivious.

    Heck, you can go most of a day open carrying without most people noticing. :rolleyes:
     
  15. Azrael256

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    Didn't you see Hot Shots? Carry everywhere, especially at funerals.
     
  16. chris in va

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    At some point you'll probably want to get a mousegun for situations like that. Normally I carry my CZ 75, but when discretion is called for the P11 gets put in the IWB.

    Ditto what ExtremeDooty said, most if not all people don't give it a second thought, and if they did, it would take a 6th thought for them to say something.
     
  17. chaim

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    If you live in a CCW state and have a permit (or you live someplace like VT or AK that don't require a permit) I only see three reasons/times not to carry.

    First would be when/where the law doesn't allow it. If your state has limitations on where and when to carry, don't carry someplace not allowed. Don't carry when out of state in a state where they won't let you carry.

    The second is when a friend or family member, or a store, says "no guns". Most of us seem to believe in property rights judging from threads on things like the recent eminent domain case from the Supreme Court. Part of property rights is saying what you do and don't want kept off your property. I certainly expect a visitor to not bring a ham sandwich and to definately keep it far away from my kitchen and dining room, and if it is my place that is a valid expectation. I'm not saying you don't have a right to complain to your friend/family member or the store manager, and you certainly have the right to refuse to go there and tell the person why. However, they have every right to say "no guns" on their property and if you choose to go you should honor the property owner's rights and wishes.

    The last reason, and I suspect the least encountered, is if your religion bans guns in certain situations. Now I'm not talking about the neighborhood church or synagogue you go to bans carrying (that falls under the private property/property rights situation- with an additional consideration that it is a congregation, almost a club, that you choose to and pay to join and are essentially a part owner in). What I'm talking about is if the tenents of your religion ban carry on the sabbath, or on "holy ground" (church/synagogue/mosque, cemetaries, ground where your religion claims a miracle occurred, etc.) or even at all (like the Quakers). If your religion has something like this and you feel strongly enough about self-defense as to carry anyway when/where the religion bans it, you may want to reconsider if this really is the religion for you (if you are willing to throw the requirements of your religion away in one area, how strongly do you really believe in it?).

    Unless the funeral falls into the last catagory or the funeral home bans carry, I don't see this falling into any of my catagories so I would say to carry. I don't consider carrying to a funeral to be disrespectful, and you never know when you will be accosted.
     
  18. Blue Jays

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    Hi Greg-
    Just a little clarification to point out that you will still be regarded as a normal civilian when you become a police officer. You would need to be in the Armed Forces in order to be a non-civilian. That is the only way to have that particular designation.

    Rockrvr1, you're probably feeling a bit "exposed" with regard to your new carry firearm, but I seriously doubt people noticed it. As mentioned before, things like cellular phones, PDAs, insulin pumps, pagers, and a variety of other utilitarian devices are so common that any lump or bulge is very acceptable and easily explained away.

    ~ Blue Jays ~
     
  19. Strings

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    heh... a LONG time ago (when I was younger and MUCH more foolish), I carried constantly: even at my aunt's funeral. Which led to an interesting discussion at the luncheon afterward, when one uncle, two of my cousins, dad and I started comparing what we were packin'...
     
  20. Texian Pistolero

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    Huh?

    Wah?

    Why is this even posted?

    If I don't need to carry, then I will not.

    (Otherwise, what is the question?)

    I am confused.
     
  21. Husker1911

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    Rockrivr, if you were being detected, you might need to reconsider things. I live in one of the four states that doesn't recognize a citizen's Second amendment right. I still carry frequently, but from necessity, have often scaled my carry piece down to a Keltec P32. It's nearly undetectable, and I've carried it into places you might not believe. But in my state, I'm forced to conceal as much from LEOs as from anyone else. Given a chance, I'd probably increase my chosen carry caliber, but I must truly go incognito. But then, isn't it called concealed carry?

    BTW, I load my .32ACP with FMJs. I believe you're fooling yourself if you expect a .32 HP to expand. I'll depend upon more reliable functioning and increased penetration FMJs offer.
     
  22. GregGry

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    I am sorry, I was using that more because the police in my state can CCW, and non LE can't. :eek: So I am not in the class of a normal civilian when it comes to firearms and CCW.. I hope the ccw laws change however.
     
  23. Texian Pistolero

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    This is a really stupid question.

    Frankly,

    I don't get it.

    If you want to carry,

    and can carry legally,

    then do so.

    If not,

    do not.

    What am I missing here?
     
  24. Husker1911

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    Texian, please see my (just) above post. I can't carry legally, in my state. Still, I believe my life is worth as much as yours or a law enforcement officer's . Gee, you and him can carry concealed. Excuse me, isn't my life worth just as much?
     
  25. Moonclip

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    Carry, you do not have a crystal ball and can not predict what may happen in the future. Guns are rarely needed but when they are, they are needed quite badly. A friend of mine actualy just died, I'll be attending the funeral next week, as he was almost as much of a gun nut as I, it almost be an insult for me not to carry at the funeral! This guy did everywhere, weather or not it was legal and I always kind of admired him for it in a strange sort of way.
     
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