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Would You Shoot WOLF Or SILVER BEAR Ammo In An AR 15 Or Mini 14?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by rugerman07, Dec 27, 2008.

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  1. rugerman07

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    I'm hearing that the zinc coated SILVER BEAR AMMO (Which Is A Wolf Brand) is actually your best choice for cheap ammo for the AR 15 and Mini 14. I haven't tried either. Can I get some replies/help here? Will either brand damage an AR 15 or Mini 14?
     
  2. goldie

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    ive shot silver bear in my ar with no problems at all,i use it for 25 yard indoor shooting.not bad at all,i have about 1000 rounds of it just for indoor shooting.ive used it since its been out,just clean the gun good after use.ive used regular wolf but i dont like it as much,seems dirtier,& has a funny smell.mayber its cheap powder they use....
     
  3. Redneck with a 40

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    I'd shoot it in a Mini-14.
     
  4. WardenWolf

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    Nasty powder. I'd think an AR would choke on it. Had a real fun time cleaning my Romak-3 after shooting the 7.62x54R stuff. It just didn't want to stop coming out.
     
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    i reload and wouldnt shoot it in anything.

    i wouldnt shoot it before i started reloading either though.

    i just dont like it.
     
  6. HankC

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    My ARs have chromed chambers and I shoot Wolf with no problem. If you have a non-chromed or match chamber, you may not want to do it.
     
  7. Nhsport

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    After shooting any non-brass ammo in a 223/5.56 you will want to clean the chamber before swapping back to the brass cassed stuff.
    Some of the wolf or other russian ammo (being lowered powered) will have function issues in certain guns but will not hurt the gun itself beyond running dirty
     
  8. ace00496

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    Silver Bear is not a Wolf brand. Wolf is made in Russia at the Tula Arms Factory. The three Bears, Silver, Brown, Golden and Monarch brand sold at Acadamy Sports are all made by Barnaul in Russia. In my opinion Barnaul ammo is superior to Wolf. It is cleaner and more accurate. That said they are all dirty compared to American ammo.
     
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    Sure, as long as it feeds fine... just clean up afterwards. I've been razzed for shooting Wolf before... but if it's not a bench gun, and it lets you shoot more often, have at it.
     
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    I have recently run 1000 rounds of it throu (3) CMMG/DMPS AR/M-4's carbines. They all ran 100% throu the entire case, No FTF, FTE ect. They are all NON-crome lined 1/9 twist regular old C/M barrels too...

    Yes it is dirty. But it's cheap and it goes bang. All (3) of my CMMG/DPMS' carbines went right around 2-3"@100yrds (5 shot groups) with a hot barrel, off a rest, with iron sights - using the $239.00 per 1000rnds Silver Bear 62gr JHP.

    I also have a Model 1 Sales 16" L/W CAR15A2 I built about 8-10yrs ago on a Bushmaster loweer that has digested thousands of Wolf, Brown Bear, Silver Bear and Barnhaul steel cased .223 ammo with no real problems other than the chamber getting gummed up a bit from the laquer cased Wolf when it first came out... Never a problem at all from the newer poly coated Wolf.

    Some have had extractors break from the steel cases and I think its very plausilable as it's one of the many a weak spots in the AR platform. However if you clean your AR everytime you fire it... you'll remove the bolt and dissassemble it to clean and inspect the extractor... I'm lucky as in the time I've been shooting mine I've not had one break.

    Keeping an AR clean is the key to reliable function. Always has been and always will be. The Marine Corps drummed that into my head. It takes a bit of extra time to clean one properly after shooting Wolf or the like, but for the cost it's good plinking/training ammo and I shoot as much as I can afford.
    Will
     
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    I run Barnaul in my AR-10, no problems.

    I have a spare extractor on hand for both the 10 and the 15, since that is the only part likely to suffer from using steel cased ammo. I can buy a lot of extractors with the money saved over brass cased surplus.
     
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    Had a super hot wolf 223 round in my AR! The steel case expanded in my rilfe and and would not extract. It had to be removed with a brass rod and a hammer. But have never has this issue with the Brown or Silver bear.
     
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    The best I've found on SILVER BEAR is $239.00 for 700 rounds. Wish I lived in your neck of the woods. I bought (2) 20 round boxes for $6.19 each to check them out.

    Thanks to everyone for their replies.
     
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    JG Sales has it for $239.00 per 1K (+shipping).

    Will
     
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    I guess my Wolf must be defective. It has never caused a problem in any of my ARs or my Mini14.
     
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    I shoot the crap out of Wolf and Monarch (barnaul) 7.62x39mm through my ar15

    I even get pretty darn good accuracy from the stuff, 2 to 3 inch 5 shot 100yd groups with sights
     
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    I shoot Commie ammo in my Commie guns (AK's, CZs etc) and brass ammo in my other guns. I don't own any AR-type rifles so I can't really say about them.
     
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    Thats better that AIM Surplus for $199 per 700, though the 700 is in a spam can which may make up for the $0.05 difference/round.
     
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    Well, hopefully, you're going to clean your AR after you shoot it whether you you shoot handloads or Wolf...so, the degree of dirty shouldn't be an issue. Therefore, why not use it? I shoot Wolf in a Colt Match AR and it works fine...I don't really care how much black crud runs out when I am cleaning it...I throw the cleaning towels away when I am done anyway. To me, worrying about whether it is dirty or not is like worring about whether or not the bullet you put through a burglar's head was bright and shiny or tarnished. Blazer Brass isn't as shiny as Atlanta Arms or Winchester white box, but my .45 never complains.
     
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    I shoot Wolf out of all my guns, AR, Mini-30, Glock, LCP, 1911, even my SSG without problems. Just clean it.
     
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    I shoot Silver Bear as practice ammo with no problems.
    Brass case Privi Patisan is even better.
     
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    I like all of the bears....brown bear, silver bear, and golden bear....

    no problems with any of them....
     
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    How about sugar bear? I've always like Dig'em smacks better than sugar bear but the puffs porcupine cereal ain't too bad either.
     
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