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would you trade a Walther PP for a Bersa?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by firestar, Jul 7, 2003.

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  1. firestar

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    I have a nice cond. Walther PP in .32acp that I am thinking of getting rid of but I can't decide if I should. I was at a gunshop and they had a like new nickel Bersa .380 that looked nice and he said he would trade even for it. Is this a good deal? I paid more for the Walther than the Bersa costs but I have to expect some loss. The Walther is a German PP not the Manurhin type so it is worth a little more.

    The Bersa had a price of $189 which is not a bad price IMO. Should I trade or try to sell the Walther online or at a gunshow?
     
  2. Marko Kloos

    Marko Kloos Moderator Emeritus

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    A German PP in good condition should fetch a bit more than $189. If you can sell it locally, I'd do that and buy the Bersa with cash.

    Out-of-state sale means that you have to add the transfer fee and shipping to the price, and it would be more difficult to walk away with a profit.

    A straight-up trade would be convenient, but you'd lose the most in the trade versus a cash buy from the proceeds of a private sale.
     
  3. blue86buick

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    Bersa .380

    they look nice, and they shoot nice too. :)

    I've had a couple friends shoot mine, and they all quite like it....then again, it's the only centerfire pistol I've got so far. :p
     
  4. Cableman

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    NO - I would not trade a Walther PP for a Bersa.
     
  5. Dave R

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    You should only make that trade if:

    -You want a larger caliber
    -You want a more reliable pistol (by reputation, anyway)
    -You want a lighter pistol (I believe)
    -You don't care about the Walther brand name.

    Since I would answer yes to all of the above, I would make the trade.
     
  6. varoadking

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    I wouldn't trade a bag of peanuts...

    ...for a Bersa. I like peanuts too much. YMMV
     
  7. martin

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    PP for a Bersa? That's like trading a Mercedes for a Hyundai.
     
  8. JeepDriver

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    There sure are a lot of us happy Bersa owners here.

    I can't remember the last time is saw anyone post something negative about The Bersa 380

    I've had mine for a couple years now. I haven't had any problems with it yet, and I've been feeding it some cheap Russian ammo lately
     
  9. uglymofo

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    A PP for a Bersa??? Is this an IQ test?:) I'll say 'no'.
     
  10. 9x19

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    My Bersa Series 95s (.32 and .380) are both more reliable with JHP ammo than either the PP (.32) or PPK/S (.380) I used to own... so for me, it depends on the reliability of that Mercedes vs the Hyundai. :D
     
  11. Spot77

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    Get the new Bersa 380.

    Unless that Walther is a real chick magnet or something. :p
     
  12. Al Thompson

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    Yep, I'd trade you even - Walther for a Bersa. I think Bersa is a fine HG, but the Walther (around here) is a $400 pistol. Check out the gun auction sites and get a price check.

    Heck, you may be able to sell it here. :cool:
     
  13. HBK

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    Hell no. A PP is worth a lot more than a Bersa, chiefly because PPs aren't currently being imported or even made. It will only go up in value. Keep it. A bersa is inexpensive anyway, save a month's beer money and buy it with that.
    If you're dead set on getting rid of it, let me know and I'll make you an offer.
     
  14. HBK

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    Oh yeah, is your PP german made? If it isn't, trade away. If it IS, then it is worth more.
     
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    Maybe one Walther for TWO or THREE Bersas, but not any less...
     
  16. 10-Ring

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    NO! Bersas are inexpensive enough that I can wait & save the money to buy them w/o trading anything way in the process.
     
  17. Jeff OTMG

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    That is a good price on the Bersa, but CDNN has had Walther PP's in .32, and I believe SOG has them as well, for around $230-$250. If your Walther is a pre-68 gun then it will not have any import stamps. If that is the case, it is worth much more to a Walther collector.
     
  18. firestar

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    My Walther is a German PP not the cheap Manurhin or police surplus pistol that they have been selling lately. It was made in 1969 and does have the Interarms import stamp. It has never jammed but I haven't shot more than 100 rounds through it since I got it. It is too heavy for the caliber and I just don't have any use for it.

    I thank you all for your advice, I was not sure what to do so I told the guy I would think about it and come back later. What I really want is a Kahr PM9 so the Bersa would just be a make do gun. I think I will take your advice and try to sell it outright rather than trade for a gun that I don't really really want. If anyone is interested, just let me know, I will sell it reasonable.

    Here is a pic to let you know the condition of the Walther PP.

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    Dave R said,

    Sir,

    Are you saying the Bersa is more reliable than a German
    Walther PP?

    If so, care to explain?

    In my way of thinking, ONLY the .380 ACP caliber would be
    better than the .32 ACP; but in NO WAY can I find a Bersa
    handgun being better than a Walther!

    Best Wishes,
    Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
     
  20. uglymofo

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    WHAT??? Maybe this IS an IQ test...

    All y'all who would trade a month's beer for a Bersa, go stand in the corner and keep HBK company.:p Even a month's worth of Pearl or Old Milwaukee (do they still make those?) would be the short end of the stick next to a Bersa.....I think.:rolleyes: :D
     
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    If you are done playing James Bond,,,, I whould say Yes. You could try to get more for it but it is an import gun so it won't be much.

    The Bersa out performs the PPK in every way and is a better and more reliable carry gun.
     
  22. HBK

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    Just for the record, it's a PP, not a PPK.
     
  23. WonderNine

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    I would think you could sell the gun and get more for it and pay cash for the Bersa. IMO, with the guns you have, you really don't NEED the Bersa, so I would try to sell the PP and then buy the Bersa if you really want one. You'll be ahead if you do that. That's not a bad looking PP and you'll fetch more for it than a new Bersa anyday.
     
  24. 9x19

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    I'm not DaveR, but my personal experience with the Walther PP in .32 was that it would not reliably feed Silvertips or Hydra-Shoks.

    My Bersa Series 95 has no problems with either of them, or the Fiocchi 60 SJHP.

    Many of the recent imports Jeff was talking about are genuine Walthers and most come with holsters and spare mags for $250 - $300... depending on finish condition, of course.

    Good luck with your choice.
     
  25. Wil Terry

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    I DON'T MEAN TO STEP ON ANYONE'S TOES BUT

    EVERY, and I do mean EVERY, Walther pistol made after WWII in Europe was made in France by MANURHIN, EVERY SINGLE ONE, including all of those marked " Made in Germany".
    Truth in advertising is a foreign concept in Europe, guys!!
    On the other hand I've owned numerous of the MANURHIN made pistols and all have been most pleasing to me.
     
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