Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by tws3b2, Jan 12, 2021.
I once bought a magazine for a .22 Colt that was labeled Colt .45.
We can all recognize the "But.... then, I HAD to buy a gun for it!" ploy hidden within that scenario.
Ha! I knew what it was but bought it as a novelty. I’ve kept it in the package.
But, I do have guns for both.
Bingo! I think we have the winner. That 130 grain FMJ is cheap range fodder. That +P stuff is expensive premium ammunition. I suspect someone just switched one for the other & somehow didn't manage to take advantage of the slight of hand.
Probably a worker made the switch - then planned on coming back later to buy it - but - you happened to get it first. - - would be my guess.
If it were me, I'd write Winchester (Olin Corp.), provide the lot # and my concerns. It may be that they had too many +P headstamped casings made and not standard on hand. Just as I'm sure that kind of thing will be happening during this time around.
You guys are way overthinking this. I worked at the LGS. You’d have all kinds of guys pulling ammo out of boxes that were on the shelf. Guess they’ve never seen ammo before. Sometimes they stuff it into whatever box is closest.
Last weekend I bought some carriage bolts for a project. Wanted 2 1”2. Some in the bin were 3”. Somebody had looked at them, threw them back into any random bin. Why should they care? They’re not buying them.
I will not usually buy reloading bullets in a box that had been opened. Too much chance of getting wrong ones back in the box. I did get a box of 960 (originally 1,000) .224’s for $9. I went through and checked to make sure they were correct.
A few years ago I was at the outdoor pistol range and saw there was a young couple there having problems with their new Model Glock 19. They would get one round off then it would jam. After watching for a few minutes I offered my assistance which was politely declined. I said OK but you got the wrong ammo. I could clearly see EMG (German brand) 9mm KRUZ on the box.
I slid a box of 9 mm WB Winchester over and said try these. They knew the difference between 9 mm Para and .380 ACP/9 mm Short when they left.
Never know for sure but I think you are probably about right. I've been buying ammo off the shelf for over 35 years and never seen or even heard of anything like that happening before. Most likely after it left the factory. But, then again you never know.
This is the same reason you ALWAYS check to make sure a firearm is unloaded. I don’t care if it’s just been checked by half a dozen people before me.
It’s been known for a ND to happen at a gun show. Do you really think the seller brought a loaded firearm, or is it more likely that someone thought it was funny to slip a live round into a display gun when no one was looking?
When I worked at the LGS, we always cleared the action before handing a firearm to a prospective customer
Rules we should all be following:
1) YOU are responsible for every round that leaves your firearm! Beginning at the gun counter when buying ammo!
2) Every gun is always loaded until YOU check it even if the person handing it to you just checked it!
3) Always practice the three NRA "Always" rules for safe gun handling!
A number of years ago there were anti gun wackos in the LA area going to gun shows and gun stores and putting live rounds into guns. Most errant rounds were found but there were several ND's as a result and I believe an injury!
Love it when those people get caught. pulling crap like that.
The whack job animal rights activist that thought polar bears should be free - all they found of him was his feet.
The whack job "fur baby" woman here in Ohio - over by the NE border with Pa that went running around the woods with orange spray paint trying to paint deer so the hunters would be confused.
Ohio DNR caught her and body slammed her for poaching and a bunch of other charges.
That's complete nonsense! On a side note, I buy lead wheel weights....
I have seen Winchester White box 9mm boxes full of 40S&W from the factory.
I've had two of these occurrences and both were Winchester. A couple years ago I bought four 100rd clear boxes of .22 Lr SuperX round nose at Bass Pro in Nashville. They were all hollow points, So I was pleasantly surprised. Still have two boxes of it unopened. Most recently I bought a box of .40 SW target rds that ended up being 9mm.
Bare shelves kinda eliminates any possibility of incorrect ammo right?
Customers will often switch ammo out usually to get better ammo at a cheaper price and leave behind the cheap ammo in the high priced box.
I've seen it often when working in a gun store, and the reason most small shops have the ammo behind the counter or under lock and key.
I caught a guy taking 1 round out of many different caliber boxes, apparently building an ammo collection .
And some hommies send kids into the store to steal 1 or 2 rounds from a box of expensive defense ammo of a certain caliber.
That's probably what happened with the 9mm, but these .22 lr are unopened.
I have purchased a ton of new ammo and never came across a factory error in packaging. Until 2012, when I found a .357 in a box of Remington 125 grain.38 Specials. Could not figure out why it would not chamber in my K-38 until I looked at the headstamp. I pulled the bullet and instead of a 125 JHP it was a 158 JHP loaded to the same OAL as a .38. Kind of glad it would not chamber!
I shot half the box. Definitely +P.
I've never experienced this personally but the way you guys are talking its more common than I would have thought. But I may have witnessed this last fall at Deer camp. An older member with health problems dropped off his Browning BAR in 270 and a partial box of shells and wanted one of us to shoot it and make sure it was still on. My BIL took it out to our little range and shot it once and it locked when feeding the second round into the chamber. I helped him get the bolt open and there was a 280 Remington cartridge jammed into the 270 chamber. None of us including the owner of the rifle have a 280!
Wrong ammo tales.
A big selling point in ads for the .38-40 Winchester 1892 and Marlin 1894 rifles over the .38-40 Winchester 1873 was that an accidental .44-40 cartridge would jam the feed of a 1873 in .38-40 requiring disassembly of the gun, but in the Winchester 1892 and Marlin 1894 the wrong size cartridge could easily be ejected. Marlin ads back in the day claimed that it was common for ammo factories to accidentally include a .44-40 round in a box of .38-40s.
One Christmas I was gifted a box of CCI Maxi-Mags (.22 WMR) --the gift giver or the sales clerk apparently mistook them for CCI Mini-Mags (.22 LR).
I had .22 LR firearms, but no .22 WMR but in spirit of the season I said nothing but thanks (the rest of the stuff in the present package was useful to me and the .22 WMR could be a trade item later on).
But later at a gunshow I found a forlorn Savage 63KM .22 WMR rifle with a fractured extractor (a common failure in Savage 63s and 73s). I knew a gunsmith who had a cache of properly tempered extractors for the Savage 63.so I bought the rifle for what I considered a reasonable price, to make good the gifted box of Mini-Mags.
Once I found a single round of 7.62x45 in a box of 7.62x39. Can’t remember what brand of ammo it was, Wolf or Tula I imagine. This was somewhere around 15 years ago so my memory is a little foggy. I’d never heard of the round so it was a fun learning experience for me.
Don't EVER try to chamber 7.62x45 in 7.62x39 tends to get so stuck in chamber you may have to beat it out with a steel rod.
We used to see this at the store. People would open a couple boxes to compare ammo and then put the wrong ammo back in the wrong box.
I used to see this all the time working in a gun store and at gun shows. People put stuff back in the wrong box ALL THE TIME. Ammo, holsters, springs and gun parts. We finally got tired of starightening out the mess and kept merchandise inside a glass case and forced them to ask for help. Back when Ebay used to sell gun parts grips and holsters you would see stuff all the time that the seller had no idea what it really was but would just state that it was whatever the box said. Wrong box.
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