WWB at Walmart up again....Is there an end?

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There's a lot of people out there who can't afford to buy anything but the "cheap foreign goods".
The real cost of those goods isn't "cheap", you will pay at the pumps for what you didn't pay at the store

Uhh.. well you can't choose not to pay that price at the pump. This is a meaningless argument. The simple fact remains that the price of labor is lower in some countries than it is in the USA, and if people truly make judgments about what to buy with price as an important consideration, then they are naturally going to choose to buy goods made in countries with low labor costs.

And BTW, this is not Anti-American to do this. If Americans want to compete, they should seek to find a way to compete. Eventually labor costs will equalize all over the world either because the USA's labor costs are excessive (as in the case, say, of automobiles, or minimum-wage jobs), or other countries' labor costs increase due to rising standard of living. This cost differential is a transitory event in a per-geographic basis, but occurs repeatedly as new geographic areas become industrialized.

Many successful American companies have found a way to keep American workers employed at a high pay scale without overpaying for labor. This is known as "outsourcing". Let's face it. It's a good thing for American companies to use Indonesia and China for low-wage manufacturing labor and keep American workers on staff for high-wage jobs like engineering and management. The only people who complain about this practice are either those who completely misunderstand it, or those who happen to be overpaid low-wage workers and know full well they will lose their job rather than acquiring higher-value skills.
 
Let's face it. It's a good thing for American companies to use Indonesia and China for low-wage manufacturing labor and keep American workers on staff for high-wage jobs like engineering and management.
When you look at it just like that it can seem simple in the short term.

However we are responsible for much of the world's rapid modernization through exactly that process.
The companies creating the factories and infrastructure in those places to accomodate that is why many of those nations are now using or have used that infrastructure to rapidly modernize and understand how to do it.
Once they do that they become major consumers of resources they never were.
Demand for those resources goes up, supply remains relatively stable, or even goes down, and the result is everything costs more for us. The American dollar is worth less (actualy the foriegn currency is just worth more so it translates to less purchasing power in trade.) The quality of life for the average America goes down.
Your value as a nation is based on how much better you are economicly than other nations, and that gap is quickly closing. That outsourcing is one of the primary reasons, though it is too late to put the cork back in the bottle most places.

The faster other parts of the world modernize the faster the the quality of life in America goes down.

We have been the primary consumer with parts of Europe since industrialization started in the 17th and 18th centuries. That means the foriegn demand was limited in most of the world for numerous products.
We were also the only ones that really needed most natural resources.
That is changing very rapidly now.
The problem is the modernizing nations are emulating western life, but there is not really enough resources for the entire world to live that lifestyle.

Plus many corporations and businesses are international now, so they have no specific loyalty to America or its economy. In the past they were based in America, production was in America, and the target consumer was Americans, and they were the primary consumer in the world.
And businesses got thier foriegn natural resources cheap from third world nations that had very little use for it themselves (limited demand.)

Now the production is elsewhere, the consumer is not limited to Americans and is all over the world and expanding, and they are much less tied to the American economy.
The foriegn natural resources are also no longer cheap because there is much greater demand for them.
America also has many taxes, restrictions, insurance requirements, wage requirements, people that bring fraud charges at the slightest upset etc and many businesses are as a result far less attached to America, it is no longer the ideal place to actualy conduct most of your business. It is just a consumer market now, not a good business home.

So there is changes going on that will make the factors governing the American quality of life change rapidly over the coming decades and it will be steadily down for our quality of life. It also means our voice in what values and rights are most important in the world will diminish over time. Not only abroad, but even in our own nation as growing foriegn powers gain a larger voice.
It will very likely effect things like small arms. Very few up and coming powers like mere peasant citizens to possess arms.
You will have to work more hours to purchase the same amount, and foriegn influences on various rights and privelidges will become greater.

The balances put in place in our nation value individuals over absolute effeciency. You won't see those values as present in the future world. How many other nations actualy encourage 'small arms proliferation' in thier borders in the hands of the people? That is an individual rights thing, a balance against those seeking power and efficiency at the expense of liberty and freedom...
Pressures will likely increase to restrict such things, expand who is prohibited, etc
If some American citizens have a problem with it, well the military, security contractors, and UN peacekeepers will be ready to help the American government deal with any situation that arises. To squash those 'terrorists'.
 
Oh yea Democrats are to blame for everything!

Not the fact that under the Bush administration we've entered two wars half way across the world, one of which is arguably unnecessary. And want to guess the amount of money spent fighting these two wars? 12.3 BILLION A MONTH.

Source: http://theiraqinsider.blogspot.com/2008/02/how-much-does-iraq-war-cost-per-month.html

But yes lets blame the Democrats because when they want to reduce this astrological hemmorage of money they get accused of trying to hinder the troops by cutting the purse strings, not caring about the troops, so much so Democrats rather watch them die just so George Bush can lose the war. And dont tell me you havn't heard crap like that spewed before (not saying you belive it but right wingers such as Bill O Riely has said things along those lines).

Do you really think a country can basically throw money away at a rate or 147.6 BILLION a year and NOT suffer economically or do people think that we just have that laying around somewhere? (Not saying the wars are a total waste of money but realistically where not receiving any compensation for our troops lives, time, efforts, and money. No cheaper oil; nothing is being imported from Iraq or Afganistan to help defray the costs)

Its basically coming out of EVERYONES pockets through taxes, the surplus (our former tax dollars) we used to have now its the worst deficit in history, foreign lenders (who also charge the US gov interest) we have to pay back. This country is in trouble weather we want to admit it or not.
 
I saw 9mm at 19.98/100 yesterday. Thankfully the BB .40 is still 12.47/50, otherwise my buddy might not have been able to shoot! .22 is still the same price that it's been for a while as well.

I finally got my reloading setup up and running again last week. Got about 900 .40, 900 9mm, 1k .223 projectiles sitting there waiting.

9mm:
$78/k bullets
$27/k primers
free brass
powder ~$14/1k rounds
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$119/1000 rounds vs. WWB $200/1k

That's a pretty substantial savings. If I had the money to buy more components right now I would. I'd also stock up on .22 at Walmart. Unfortunately I have to send off a tax stamp hehe.
 
I gave up on walmart a long time ago. Especially when they stopped selling guns, and now, they don't even carry scope rings.
 
I'm reloading high quality 40 S&W ammo for just over $6/box. I haven't bought factory ammo in years.
Is that with new brass,or with fired brass that you already have?
JL
 
That's with once fired brass from my factory ammo, which I shot several years ago, plus I've been buying once fired brass at gun show's, average about $8/500 peices. Factor all that in, I'm still at about $7/box. Either way, it beats the hell out of factory ammo.

I used to shoot Fiocchi 40 S&W ammo, great stuff, but once it crossed the $200/case threshold, that was it for me. I started reloading and have never looked back.
 
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