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Xd Breakage Report. Here is The Facts!

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by possum, Apr 10, 2007.

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  1. possum

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    Alright the data is in and i have sorted it all out. i was curious about a few things to do with the xd's, so i decided to take it upon myself to do a little on-line study to answer some of my questions. so here goes.
    Paramaters
    1)50 people's individual input.
    2)Data Taken from three gun forums, THR, xdtalk.com and ar15.com

    Results

    1)14 0f the 50 people own mulitiple xd's more than one, in some cases as many as three.

    2)of the 50 xd owners there is a total of 69 xd's.

    3)Of the 69 xd's there were a total of 6 breakages.
    A) 3 in 9mm
    B) 3 in .40s&w
    NOTE: there were no issues with the .45 models but i don not believe this to be because of any difference in manufacturing, or the way they are built, they have simple not seen the action that the others have.

    4)Xd's By caliber, of the 69 owned there are:
    A) 18 .45acp
    B) 19 .40s&w
    C) 31 9mm
    D) 1 .357sig
    NOTE: i found it interesting the number of .45 models to the ratio of the others, i think sa really capatlized by making the .45 acp models and definetly made some money quick on them. also cool to see that ouut of the bunch there were no .45 gap models owned.

    Ammo Consumption
    as little as 200rds to as much as 12,000rds were fired with 3 over the 10,000rd mark, and three times that many over the 5,000rd mark. between the various owners and there xd's.

    NOTE: i definetly got my questions answered and hopefully this will aid in changing some people's mis conceptions, but if not i think it is good info and a good basis to justify someone buying and owning an xd. i am happy with the results.
     
  2. CountGlockula

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    So what was the type of "breakage"?
     
  3. strat81

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    What constitutes a "breakage"? A destroyed barrel is a bit more significant than the front sight falling off.
     
  4. CountGlockula

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    Great analysis!
     
  5. possum

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    i have to head to work but i will fill you all in on the actual breakages later. thanks.
     
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    I chipped my locking block and broke my firing pin retaining pin. The gun still functioned fine though.
     
  7. GhostRider66

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    I do think of course that the results should be weighted a bit to compensate for the oft-noted fact that people with a negative experience are far more likely to say something than those that experienced no problem. Being in the computer industry, all we ever work with are the broken ones. To ask me, every computer out there is a piece of junk. I'd say you'd probably hear from the people that had a problem with an XD by a 100 to 1 margin (if not more) as compared to those that didn't. Just thought I'd point that out.
     
  8. BBsteel

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    Good point GR66 but I believe the results are weighted as is. Meaning, some of the data was obtained from an actual XD forum. I would be curious to see if this where most of the "good" feedback came from (probably).


    It would be nice to see a continuation of this study reach across other forums specific to gun Mfg (i.e. Walther, Glock, H&K, etc...).
     
  9. DomMega

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    It would be nice to see a continuation of this study reach across other forums specific to gun Mfg (i.e. Walther, Glock, H&K, etc...).

    Agreed
     
  10. MythBuster

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    I feel that 6 "breakages" out of 69 is too many for me to consider the XD to be such a good pistol.
     
  11. Trebor

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    Your study has too small of a sample size and also have the problem of "self selected" participation. It's interesting, but not valid enough for me to base any decisions on.

    Personally, I like to use other's personal experiences when evaulating a possible new gun, but I don't pretend to think the antedoctal evidence collected is in any way "scientific." I find that training classes or other situations where the guns are "run hard" are good places for the weaknesses to be exposed.

    I found Nomad2's recent posts about his contactor training classes interesting in that he said something along the lines of "all the XD's broke." If I was in the market for an XD right now I'd follow up with him for me info on what he observed in the class.
     
  12. winddummy

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    Way to many failures

    Regardles of what the breakages were, six is way to high. one out of sixty nine is to high. If I even have one breakage or failure with a weapon (not counting failure to feed or extraction during the first 200 rounds) of mine, it is never carried for denfense again and is almost always traded off, I won't carry any pistol that I can't bet my life on.
     
  13. possum

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    if you also read in his other threads that all the ar's had trouble, nuff said.
    couldn't care less, i did it for me, to apease my own curiosity, if anyone is interested then fine if not oh well. i don't expect anyone to base there opinion on this that is not what i am trying to accomplish, i am a life long xd and sa owner and i will continue to be that way!

    GhostRider66, good pont but actually 5 of the reported brakages came from xdtalk.com
    and 1 from here.

    breakages defined.
    1) 9mm service Locking Block crack
    2) 9mm service broken roll pin
    3) .40 service roll pin
    4) .40 service guide rod and broken slide stop
    5) 9mm service
    6)
    Hope this answers the questions you guys had. thanks.
     
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    I don't see this as very scientific at all. I almost didn't reply to the post asking for information because I have been too busy and didn't see it as important. If I was pissed at my XD though, it might have become more important. I now have replied to it, but too late. People that have no problem tend to not be as vocal as those that do. Nice info to have though.
     
  15. possum

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    wasn't meant to be. why do i even reply sometimes!
     
  16. BBsteel

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    Possum, for the record, nice work on getting all this information for "your self" and taking the liberty to share it with us. I hope this thread won't discourage anyone's future work of the same sort.



    Do share any updates or future studies with us, thanks!
     
  17. GhostRider66

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    Not wanting to be very critical but please refer to my earlier post. Anyone stating that this "study" represents that 6 out 69 XDs break or experience a major failure need to buy and read a good book on statistics. This is NOT a real "study" by any means and not at all scientific. Please tell me this is not how you make other major purchase decisions. That said, it is not a bad thing to start looking at. Let's just not read into it what isn't there.
     
  18. possum

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    i owned two xds and still do before this and i will own more in the future!
     
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    I currently own five. I figure since they are so prone to failure, I can always use a spare. :D

    Seriously, I love them and everyone I've introduced to them either bought one or plans on doing so. I figure the odds of my ever having to use one to save my life or that of another are already greater than my winning the lotto. If the weapon happens to fail on that particular day and time, the Man and I had a pre-arranged face-to-face scheduled already and not much I can do about it.
     
  20. possum

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    same here. sa has made alot of money off of me.

    i believe the same to be true brother.
     
  21. Spot77

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    Interesting info, thanks.

    Might be able to afford an xd in .45 sometime in the next decade. :(
     
  22. Trebor

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    I took you to task for not being "scientific" because your title said: "Here are the facts." That made it sound to me that you were claiming something that you really couldn't back up with your study.

    For an informal poll, where the respondents self-selected, the results are interesting.
     
  23. shc1

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    Here I go assuming again but…

    so much holster wear the slide looks chromed hahaha

    Sounds like enough quick draw to be dropped several times…
     
  24. 12many

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    Well, at least now we have the facts.

    6 out of 69 is a breakage rate of ~7%. I suspect it is actually much much less.

    It is interesting though to hear about what breaks/cracks so we can keep an eye on those parts. I have a XD9 SC. Great little gun Probably 400 rounds, not a single hickup and I find it to be very accurate given it's 3 inch barrel. Like usual, the gun will outperform me.
     
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    Nice concise report-thank you.
     
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