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Xdm 10 mm vs Glock 20

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Huntolive, Mar 7, 2019.

  1. scaatylobo

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    I just bought the G-20 as I too wanted to get a 10MM.

    I was very interested in the XD ,but already owned 8 Glocks so it was a no brainer when a used one came along at a reasonable price.

    After I get LOTS of T&E on the G-20,I will decide if I 'need' to get a different 10MM by another maker.

    But I expect to like the G-20 as I shoot Glocks pretty well.
     
  2. Thorgrim

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    I've never shot a Glock, I imagine I'd like them. Eventually I'll at least have to buy a G19 as it's iconic now.

    I went with the XD/XDM platform because of the grip safety - with a little bit of a gut, AIWB carry works for me especially while driving (years ago I carried crossdraw for the same reason, but a crossdraw that an old man's cranky shoulder can reach and still conceals well has pretty much been Unobtanium. I have a very nice one for a 1911 - but it still isn't concealable under anything less than a winter coat. As to the Glock vs XD series, It's cheaper to get a better trigger on a Glock and they're a well-proven gun as to reliability, but I have 3 XD/XDM and haven't had a single failure with any of them.

    To me, especially at my age, I realize my potential weaknesses. I like to build consistent gun-handling habits and I've switched my carry guns completely from 1911's to XD(m)s so whatever I may need to use defensively it will operate exactly like all the others I commonly lay hands on. Target guns are another thing and I'll continue to shoot my 1911's at the range because I enjoy them, but as my body sags I find AIWB better and some/most modern striker-fired guns don't have that sharp butt (end of the mainspring housing) to contend with as I find it more difficult to conceal that "feature" in that carry location. Of course, I could either buy a rounded-butt 1911 or have mine professionally altered to have that feature or buy a new one built that way - but that's pricey and I could have another, more suitable gun for the same bucks. For years I mostly carried one of two guns - a Python for my work as a surveyor when we worked in copperhead-invested areas (the survey line goes where the line goes, damn the snakes!), or a Gold Cup for defense. Oddly enough, I usually carried both in an El Paso Saddlery Tom Threepersons crossdraw on a separate 2" gunbelt, as I always had a bunch of junk (survery notes, maps, etc.) hanging off my right side.

    Now I realize I'm not as sharp or quick as I was then and may not mentally "switch gears" in an emergency as easily, and I think the smart thing for me to do is to stay with one platform except while at the range just having fun. If it weren't for the lack of some sort of safety besides the trigger I'd have gone with Glock, and I could have had a 10mm much sooner. I like the XD grip safety, it's familiar to an old 1911 shooter. The big bonus is that when carrying AIWB in a soft-ish holster, I can easily keep the web of my hand off the grip safety, and re-holster safely without looking down at my belt.

    My latest is an XDM in 10mm. I've wanted a pistol in that caliber since the days of the Bren Ten, but I didn't trust the early Delta Elites. Besides, the Glock and XDM have more magazine capacity in a package I find easier to conceal. I didn't even get to shoot it yesterday as I'm waiting on a date for back surgery and just wasn't up to it, so I sent it with a buddy to help break it in. He came back with some impressive 10yd silhouette targets. Surgery should be soon, and I'm sure that will take a lot of variables out of my shooting - on a really bad day I look a lot like Barney Fife. At least I still have good trigger control, and know not to shoot if my sights aren't aligned - more than I can say for ol' Barney.
     
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  3. Thorgrim

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    My XDM Compact in 9mm actually has a better trigger than my 4.5" 10mm XDM. What the heck, they're production guns. If I continue liking the platform, I suppose I'll send them off one at a time to Powder River Precision or a similar firm and get the triggers fixed on all three of the ones I have now. I love the XD 5" "tactical" (gee, I hate that overused word), but it needs an adjustable rear sight. I'm not a big fan of the Trijicon stock sights unless you think you need them in the dark - I find the 3-dot sights potentially confusing when trouble happens. Anyway, I think either a good adjustable rear sight or a red dot is in it's future. So little money, so much stuff I want to do!

    As a side note - does anyone make a copy of the old MMC "bar/cross" sights these days? I had them on all of my 1911's at one time, and loved them. They really excel if you need to shoot at distance, and with a little familiarization at the range they're dead-easy to use. As was said by high school physics class teacher "it's only confusing once".
    :rofl:
     
  4. Good Ol' Boy

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    I dont own either but I do own a G17 and G26, and that being said I'd probably go Glock as I've never liked any XD series guns I've handled.

    You never mentioned what this would be used for so if you're not opposed to other suggestions I would offer up the Ruger SR1911 in 10mm, which I do own. And she's a sweet shooter.


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  5. JR24

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    A while back I looked into the XD in 45 as an alternative to my Glock 21. After checking it and the XD(M) out I determined I flat liked everything about the Glock better.

    I assume the same would hold true in 10mm.

    Subjective, yes, but ergonomics and trigger preferences are subjective and both guns work, so that's all I've got to offer.
     
  6. psyopspec

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    I went with a Glock 29 when shopping for a 10mm, but that's based on having carried Glocks for some years. I can find any accessory I want, do anything that needs to be done, and not have to worry about dealing with roll pins. You'd probably be well-served by either.
     
  7. jmr40

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    I tried XD pistols long before I bought a Glock. I don't care at all for the XD design. I've since added many Glocks to the collection including a G20 and G29. All of them have done the job. I don't shoot a ton of 10mm ammo, but the Glock G29 is the most versatile handgun I own and would be the last I'd sell. I put far more ammo though the 9mm Glocks for a lot less money, but since the design is the same I can change over to the 10mm easily.
     
  8. ECVMatt

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    I have had a Glock 20 for about 15 years and love it. I have taken it all over the place from Texas to Alaska and it has never let me down. I have shot many hogs with it at close range and it hammers pretty hard. I once fell, well slipped down a muddy embankment while mounted on a mule and loaded the gun up with mud from the slide. I was able to take it apart with a nail pulled from an old fence, wash it out in a stream and get it functioning. I now carry a takedown tool of some sort on all hunting trips. Of all the positive attributes of the Glock 20, I really like the ability to switch parts with no fitting. I recently picked up a 21 slide on the cheap, slapped it on and was shooting .45 ACP in no time.

    I tried the XD platform a couple of times and was not overly impressed. They are solid guns no doubt, but the triggers on the one's I tried were not that great and there were no replacement parts at the time. The parts that were available all stated that they need to be fitted to the individual gun. Just taking the slide down for a detail strip/cleaning was enough for me. I hated hammering out pins every time I wanted to clean the slide. To each his own though...

    Having said all that, I would agree with others who commented about feel. The gun must fit the shooter. I would suggest trying both and picking whatever works best for you.

    Good Luck and enjoy the 10mm; it is a great round!

    Matt
     
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  9. SDGlock23

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    I'd opt for a G20 unless you just like the XDM series better, I've had them and they're not bad, but I do prefer Glock.
     
  10. Wreck-n-Crew

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    The dreaded camel hump in the full size Glock's drive me bonkers. Just cannot get them to fit my hand and the newer backstraps (though an improvement) are not much better. Glock 19 just fine and my current carry. There are aftermarket frames that are much better, but why? If I were looking for a full size 10mm between those 2 choices I would go with the XD personally,
     
  11. Ben86

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    I too want to get into 10mm and am comparing the two. Seems like the best poly striker 10mm options.

    The G20 feels like a 2x4 compared to the XD so I will probably go for the XD based on ergos. Even though I hate grip safeties.

    Hey you could go for the giant monstrosity known as the G40 and even put a red dot on it!
     
  12. Huntolive

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    Thanks,

    I did what I often do when I can't decide...
    I got Both:evil:

    That's partly because I got the glock 20 (with a 22 Conversion kit) for an irresistible price as part of a package trade.
     
  13. Texas10mm

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    I had a Glock 20 for six years and could never bring myself to shoot it. It just didn't fit my hand, just like every other Glock I've held.

    I've held the Springfield 10MM XDM and I like the feel of it. At one time I had half a dozen XD pistols. I just didn't shoot them as well as I wanted. I've sold/traded all by an XD45.

    I've got a pistol for sale locally and it looks like I have a buyer. I'll be picking up the XDM 5.25" 10mm.
     
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  14. cogun4hire

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    Tack on another happy Glock user who has been running a Gen3 as a woods gun since 2011 with no issues, Other than expensive ammo haha.
     
  15. Ben86

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    I've gotten both before and took them to the range to decide. This happened in a Hipower vs CZ75 situation. Only sold one at a slight loss.
     
  16. Larry Poho

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    I too was looking at a Glock20/40 vs XDM 10mm. XDM Pro’s : better grip, better fully supported chamber/barrel, Shoots faster than the 40/10mm, has a Match fitted barrel ( you cant just buy a XDM barrel. Springfield wont just sell you one), Not as big as the 40, but not much bigger than the 20. Glock Pro’s They just work. Generous unsupported chamber/barrel makes it an any ammo shooter. Broad support aftermarket, price, easy to sell if you are willing to take a hit, can buy othwer caliber barrels like 40 and 357 sig. I have shot the 20, 40, and the XDM 5.25 10 mm. I picked the XDM 4.5OSP with 5.30 inch threaded barrel 10mm.Tollerances are tight so a breakin of a hundred to one hundred fifty rounds are required, before I can review. Mine is coming just after Christmas. Just so you know. Some barrel makers sell XDM barrels, but from what I have heard, some are not that happy with their new $190 barrel.
     
  17. Dan-O

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    I don’t think there’s a wrong answer here.

    I like glocks and have a few g20’s, and g29’s.

    I own zero xd’s, but I’d happily buy one.
     
  18. Dan-O

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    Dangit......zombie
     
  19. Master of Disaster

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    1572382005531_1_imagejpeg_1.jpg I've not tried an xd in 10mm. I've had a G20C a G29 and G40 and I ran the .40 S&W aka short n week out of them as well as 10mm but once I picked up a limited edition Sig 220 Elite in 10mm. I was spoiled however the $$ is the only drawback to the higher end (Non plastic) Sig's. I did like the G20 C and should have kept it as 2013 was the last year for the compensated G20
     
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  20. Reinz

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    To me it’s simply do you prefer shooting a Glock or SA. You’ve already picked the caliber, which is the difficult part for many of us.

    If you have never shot a SA or Glock, they are popular enough that one or both will probably be at your local range on any given day. I’ve found that most gun guys are more than happy to let folks shoot their guns. Even though they might not have a 10mm, you can still get a good idea.

    If the gun range idea won’t work for ya, just go to a gun store and coon finger both brands.

    For me, I haven’t found a ten that I didn’t like. I have a lot of them, but no SA yet. I just haven’t come across one.
     
  21. Robbins290

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    I would go glock any day. I had 4 xd’s that were the worst grouping pistols i ever had. I do not trust the xd platform. As earlier post say. The glock has been proven and has a huge after market support.
     
  22. needmorecowbell

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    5B41C39C-F722-4F3E-9AA1-787D3CAB8D6F.jpeg Update on my earlier post from March. I decided to pick up a G20 and G29 due to wanting both a compact and full-size and not waiting on Springfield to come out with something compact to carry. I like the Glocks a lot, so much so that I may get some more.
     
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  23. WestKentucky

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    Yes and no. Glocks are very well supported, but the large frame Glocks are a bit different than medium frames which is what everybody thinks of in a Glock (17, 19, 22 etc). And as far as ergonomics go, the large frame is the same basic design, but everything is a bit bigger and heavier which means thicker and it’s a TOTALLY different feel. I can’t stand a medium frame Glock but I am a fan of the 42, want a 43, and am going to go ahead and build a 20.

    There is some market support for large frame glocks in magazines and barrels, but truthfully that’s about where it stops. Aftermarket slides are vaporware, the one thing that pushes me toward the Glock large frames is conversion barrels and the option to go mild (22lr or 9mm) to wild (.460 Rowland)
     
  24. Trey Veston

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    There are hundreds of options in triggers, trigger groups, connectors, sights, slide release, etc, etc. for the large frame Glocks, which usually share the same components as the medium frame Glocks. Lone Wolf offers 8 different slide options for the G20/21. Not as many as the G17/19, but there are still plenty of options out there.

    Five minute search of the internet proves that your assertion that there isn't much available for the large frame Glocks is patently false.
     
  25. WestKentucky

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    Lone wolf shows part numbers for the slides. They ARE NEVER in stock. Your assertion that I’m full of it is bogus. The only thing that can be found for an aftermarket 20/21 slide is an unfinished blank from LW or a no-name questionable as all get out slide that’s on eBay. If you find a different aftermarket slide then I’m very interested. If you find a Glock slide that’s not almost the price of a complete gun then I’m open to hearing that as well. Lots of factory stuff out there for the 21 as some law enforcement glorious adopted them and they are now coming out as tradein guns, but still not much aftermarket stuff for the 21 either. Again, they list stuff but they don’t have stock. Just like some of the other folks who started development of full size slides and then for some reason they backed out of them.

    And yes, I have been in the list waiting for an email on a g20 slide for over a month. No such email has showed up. Last I heard, back ordered with no estimated date in stock at LW.
     
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