yikes, help me choose norinco 982 or wingmaster?

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Ok here is the deal I got about 300 to spend on a shotgun for slugs.

I have to choose between a used wingmaster with a 18 inch bead barrel for 240, or a new hawk 982 with ghost ring sights for 210.

I am having trouble deciding, the wingmaster is no doubt better quality, a good deal but the blueing might cause rust issues and the bolt sure is shiny, which might alert the deer.

The 982 has a more durable finish, and the ghost rings should be excellent for slug shooting.


But some part of me is saying I am crazy to pass up a 200 dollar wingmaster, but by the time I get it drilled for a red dot or something, I dunno. The 982 just has more features that I want I guess.

Am I crazy for going for the lesser gun? I gotta pull the trigger by tomorrow.
 
Used Wingmaster. If this was between a 982 and an Express, I'd say get the 982. But a Wingmaster is a work of art.
 
ok, I think I will bite the bullet and buy it, even if I think it wont work out as well. I guess for the cost of the 982, I could always get both. :) I tended to think along those lines myself Meytind. Thanks for the confimation
 
Norinco

I picked up a Norinco for $225....terrible shotgun. Shells constantly got hung up on 2nd or 3rd pump. Stay away from this junk. Luckily my dealer is a really good guy and he gave me full credit towards a Benelli Nova. Now that is an absolutely fantastic shotgun.
 
I picked up a Norinco for $225....terrible shotgun. Shells constantly got hung up on 2nd or 3rd pump. Stay away from this junk. Luckily my dealer is a really good guy and he gave me full credit towards a Benelli Nova. Now that is an absolutely fantastic shotgun.
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This is contrary to 99.999% of the experiences posted about on THR.

I've had the same thing happen on other makes and models of shotguns. Some imported and some not.
 
Norinco Vs. Wingmaster?!?!?!?! Please tell me you are joking?!?! Or have you bumped your head?
 
Norinco Vs. Wingmaster?!?!?!?! Please tell me you are joking?!?! Or have you bumped your head?
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Hah maybe I did momentarily bump my head.

You know, when you add up parkerizing, and ghost ring sights, it is an attractive package.

for me to do that to the 870, would cost a pretty penny. still, its a good deal and I will jump on it.
 
I picked up a Norinco for $225....terrible shotgun. Shells constantly got hung up on 2nd or 3rd pump. Stay away from this junk.
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First time I've heard that. From all appearances, the Norinco Hawks are every bit as good or better than an 870 - very well made from all appearances. But I cannot disagree necessarily with your function reliability assessment, because I haven't shot one yet.

I'd still jump on the wingmaster however, as you say, for that price. The Hawks are indeed an attractive package, and I hear that supposedly this August the ship is coming in (literally) containing more Hawks, which means that they'll be sub-$200 again, instead of the premium you'd have to pay now.
 
I would purchase both. You can always get your money back out of the WM after you decide you like the 982 better. You can always hold on to the WM and store it in the safe.

The 982 makes a tough as nails very reliable beater shotgun. Just right for what you plan to do with it.

I picked up a Norinco for $225....terrible shotgun. Shells constantly got hung up on 2nd or 3rd pump.
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It's possible but not likely. Are you sure you know how to use a pump shotgun?


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A used Wingmaster is a no-brainer. They sell for less than $300, yet look and feel like they should fetch 3 times that. I picked up a near 40 year old Wingmaster, and I'm convinced that it's the mark to beat in the pumpgun world.
 
Virginian: I think your right about that but I have heard the 982 is one of the few with "real" parkerizing.
 
okay...

Yes the Norinco was a piece of **** and I do know the boom end goes away from me....It surprised me how bad it was as I have always had a good impression of the company. Several different brands and types of shells were cycled through the Norinco and it was not reliable. The Benelli was perfect with ALL brands and types of shells.
 
I think you should get the Wingmaster...


...then tell me where you saw the 982.
I haven't found a place that has them in stock yet.
 
I think your right about that but I have heard the 982 is one of the few with "real" parkerizing.
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982 & Pardner Protector = Parkerized finish


scytale_: It surprised me how bad it was as I have always had a good impression of the company. Several different brands and types of shells were cycled through the Norinco and it was not reliable.
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If you run into another one like that give me an email I will buy it from you and make her run smooth as butter. Honestly I have never run across one like that but I have only seen a hundred or so.


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Wal-Mart has 870s for $247 brand new and $287 with 2 barrels. They even have a wooden stock with a nice finish on it for around the same price.
 
NEF makes a dedicated slug gun for about what you want to spend.

Check their website.

I failed to mention that I had a Hawk 982 some years ago and it was a reliable shotgun that worked everytime I pulled the trigger.

There has been very little complaints if any regarding the 982 , Pardner Pumps,

Now, if a Wingamster is within your reach , go for it.

if you roll the dice on a Pardner or 982, you will not be dissapointed.

I have two of the Pardner Pumps and they are a well made field shotgun that are the best deal out there.

For around 200 to 250 dollars,you get into a shotgun that will serve you well irregardless of what some folks claim as cheap Chinese junk.

Look for yourself and shoulder the gun, then make your descision on how it feels to you.
 
I swapped out my 870 Express plastic trigger group for a Norinco 870 clone metal trigger group. The trigger pull is smoother and more positive. So is the safety.
 
Where are the Pardner Pumps made? How long have they been around? Are they a copy of the 870 or a new design? Thanks. They seem pretty decent.
 
:)The Pardners are imported from China thru IAC Hawk industries.

They are made from very good steel and have modern features that are conducive to hunting and home defense.

NEF has rolled out a dedicated slug gun with rifled barrel and features that make it woods ready.

I am very surprised that the poster who said said he had problems with his and, while I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, I am skeptical due to the fact of the bias shown Chinese made guns.

I have been giving positive reviews on my Pardners and remember back in 1995 buying a Remington "clone" and later trading it off for a .22 rifle as had other shotguns.

I called the fellow I traded with and he still has the gun and has not had any problems with it.

I asked him to look at the reciever and it was a Hawk shotgun as micro etched on the side of the reciever.

It was solid when I had it but back then I was convinced that it would not last like the 870.

Well, I was wrong.

Anyhow, they've cleaned up alot over time and now we have the Pardners.

I, in no way, mean to slam the 870 Wingmaster but, in this case, do you want a gun that's ready to take game without extra expensive work or are you ready to spring that needs almost the cost of a new gun to get it up and running?

What you have now is a choice that, to me, is a no brainer.

I probably could get some trigger time with the Wingmaster and use as is with buckshot, but then, I could have it all with the 982.

I live in Tidewater, Va. and its pretty much buckshot only in the hunt clubs here.

Hunting solo in some of the rural counties you can use slugs if allowed by VDGIF regulations.

In these areas, or from what I've experienced, you'd be lucky to shoot past fifty yards and I would not be uncomfortable with a plain barreled shotgun with a bead sight.

Well, the question is, do you want to do a little "smithin" to the older Wingmaster or do you want to get in the woods with a gun ready to go.

Of course, any gun, new or used , will have to be broken in and proven before use as it would be foolish just to load up and enter the woods without some quality time with the gun of choice.

I would spring an extra 100 dollar bill and get both as that seems to be a geat deal for the Wingmaster and about on par for the Norinco.

You would have the best of both worlds then.

A used Wingmaster to get up to what you want it to be and a woods gun that, when proven, you can hunt with.

It's your descision and I wish you the best.

Oh, one more thing , I will not castigate you for buying a Chinese shotgun.
 
long story short, someone bought the wingmaster, and I am shotgunless once again. I really think I am going to go with the 982, my hunting buddy has had a similar IAC gun since the early 90s. His only complaint is he feels it is heavier than a 870.
 
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