You can't own that -- it's dangerous!

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+1 for the SBR/SBS restriction. Michigan now allows suppressors along with full auto, but nothing with a short barrel? (unless it's full auto, then a short barrel is ok)
 
The SBR/SBS restrictions are extremely stupid.

Originally the 1934 NFA was going to include handguns so then it made some sense to restrict shortened rifles and shotguns (to stop people from making handguns out of rifles to get around the law), but since handguns were removed from the bill before passage there is really no reason for SBR/SBS restrictions.
 
I'm amazed that no one has mentioned 922r ...

The so called assault weapons ... like the Steyr AUG which has only been used in a crime in the movies and on TV is banned? Why?

A firearm with more than 10 imported parts is way more dangerous than one made with 10 or less?

For instance, a post 1989 AK with a US made receiver, muzzel device, trigger, hammer, sear and gas piston is much less leathal than one built from all imported parts?

Really?

Lets make some more confusing laws that make voters feel good but don't accomplish the goal ... kinda like the department of Energy.
 
I am in the same MA-restrictions mess that the OP is in. It is slowly getting better, but will never be right. We all agree: the "list" has nothing to do with safety, just control.

Note that a C&R FFL could allow you to obtain non-list handguns that are C&Rs. Could help you get a .32 PPK. You will NOT be able to transfer them from your FFL bound-book to yourself (your private collection), nor to anyone else in MA.

Oh: IANAL and the above is not legal advice.
 
Any of the import restrictions are not about how dangerous something is. If something is dangerous, it doesn't matter what the source is.

Seriously? 10 round magazine limits? Why is that magic 11th round more dangerous?
 
That 922r thing? I have heard (and would tend to believe) that it's not a restriction even aesthetically intended for public safety, but rather purely a concession to lobbyists for American manufacturers and unions. If you could still buy Norinco M14's, for example (which i found out can still be had in Canada for about $600-700), then there's no way Springfield could sell as many M1A's as they do, when they cost twice as much even for rack-grade.

If Walmart has taught us anything, it's that patriotism doesn't count for much when chinese crap can be bought for half-price.
 
Does anybody know the history behind the short barrel laws?
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Came from fear that the "Gangsters" from the 20's had rubbed off on the general population so everyone was hiding sawed off shotguns under their jackets to rob liquor stores, banks, and assassinate politicians.
 
The most ridiculous law is the one regarding suppressors. In most places, even ones with much more stringent gun laws than the United States, supressors are sold over-the-counter. I really wish that was the case here. In NY, you can't have anything NFA period, so I can't even get a tax stamp.
 
You wouldn't need any gun laws, if our criminal laws were tougher. But the gun laws are to help keep guns out of the hands of repeat felons. If repeat felons were not allowed to re-enter society, where is the problem. That's enough for me, my blood pressure is going up. One last thing, no one can reason with "stupid".
 
Yes, the genius behind anything firearm related being banned from Russia. We bring crap into this country all the time from China, but Russia? Ha! Stupid politicians.

Those would be the:
MP-448 "Skyph" chambered in 9x18
MP-446 "Viking" chambered in 9x19

Again, stupid politicians. :cuss:
 
I've never really wanted a machine gun. For 50-some years I have wanted a working bazooka with lots of ammo. I'd be careful with it.

John
 
Does anybody know the history behind the short barrel laws?
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It wasn't really the fear of everyone trying to play "gangster" and keep a sawed off shotgun underneath their coat (though that still could have had a small impact). The reason we have SBR/SBSs in the NFA is because handguns were also listed as NFA weapons in the original draft of the bill. The SBR/SBS provision was included to keep People from taking a rifle and turning it into a pistol. When pistols were later dropped from the NFA legislation, no one apparently thought about removing the SBR/SBS verbiage as well.
 
BINGO! We have a winner.

Laws against short barrels and removable stocks make no sense in a country where you can still buy a handgun that is even more cobcealable.
 
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