Socorro27
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- Jan 27, 2022
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We all know why Federal employees are sometimes less than helpful, sometimes rude - the reason is (until now) it is (was) almost impossible to fire them.
My gun shop called on Thursday and said my can had arrived. I came in, did the photo, the fingerprints, and they asked me to enroll using their eFile computer. I got stuck at the home address - the ATF computer did not have my city & zip code combination. Gun store told me that I'd have to wait - said to call ATF and get them to update their computer. I asked how long would they think it might take. He shrugged his shoulders, "A month, two months, maybe 6." If it takes longer than a month, come back and we'll file a congressional inquiry.
I went home, called the NFA department and spoke to a nice lady. She directed me to email the eForms department with a description and she gave me their email. I did this on the same Thursday I visited the gun shop. At 6 pm on Sunday (72 hours later but only 24 hours "business days") I got an email saying that my zip code had been added. Email from ATF at dinner time on a Sunday? Really? For a request put in on Thursday late afternoon.
I went back to the gun store the next day on the following Monday. The guys at the gun store couldn't believe that not only was it done in 2 days, but done over a weekend. I joked, "Maybe that zip code correction was a bullet point for Musk." Everyone laughed.
So we filed my form IV, using a trust, on Monday. I asked again, "How long?" Gun store owner told me that trust applications are running about 1 to 2 months.
Today, 3 days later, Thursday, exactly 1 week later after I emailed asking my zip code to be changed, and 72 hours after I filed my trust Form IV, today it came to my email - approved!
I went back to the gun store today and they told me that I'm the third or 4th person today and a half dozen yesterday, they said everyone's forms are getting approved all of the sudden. The gun store owner also told me that one applicant forgot an address and rather than reject the form as they usually do, they emailed him and asked him to correct and re-send and they would hold his place in line. He said that's new.
You have to wonder, if the belief is that there will be layoffs, and every reviewer wants to save their job, what better way than clearing their desk and asking their boss for more work? I can't help but think that the fear of layoff is kicking some of these Federal workers and contractors into a new work ethic.
I've already gotten home and put some rounds through the new can.
I'm just astounded, I got ATF to correct their website and get my approved form IV back in 1 week (5 business days). Incredible.
My gun shop called on Thursday and said my can had arrived. I came in, did the photo, the fingerprints, and they asked me to enroll using their eFile computer. I got stuck at the home address - the ATF computer did not have my city & zip code combination. Gun store told me that I'd have to wait - said to call ATF and get them to update their computer. I asked how long would they think it might take. He shrugged his shoulders, "A month, two months, maybe 6." If it takes longer than a month, come back and we'll file a congressional inquiry.
I went home, called the NFA department and spoke to a nice lady. She directed me to email the eForms department with a description and she gave me their email. I did this on the same Thursday I visited the gun shop. At 6 pm on Sunday (72 hours later but only 24 hours "business days") I got an email saying that my zip code had been added. Email from ATF at dinner time on a Sunday? Really? For a request put in on Thursday late afternoon.
I went back to the gun store the next day on the following Monday. The guys at the gun store couldn't believe that not only was it done in 2 days, but done over a weekend. I joked, "Maybe that zip code correction was a bullet point for Musk." Everyone laughed.
So we filed my form IV, using a trust, on Monday. I asked again, "How long?" Gun store owner told me that trust applications are running about 1 to 2 months.
Today, 3 days later, Thursday, exactly 1 week later after I emailed asking my zip code to be changed, and 72 hours after I filed my trust Form IV, today it came to my email - approved!
I went back to the gun store today and they told me that I'm the third or 4th person today and a half dozen yesterday, they said everyone's forms are getting approved all of the sudden. The gun store owner also told me that one applicant forgot an address and rather than reject the form as they usually do, they emailed him and asked him to correct and re-send and they would hold his place in line. He said that's new.
You have to wonder, if the belief is that there will be layoffs, and every reviewer wants to save their job, what better way than clearing their desk and asking their boss for more work? I can't help but think that the fear of layoff is kicking some of these Federal workers and contractors into a new work ethic.
I've already gotten home and put some rounds through the new can.
I'm just astounded, I got ATF to correct their website and get my approved form IV back in 1 week (5 business days). Incredible.
