Your view on Hydra-Shok ammo?

[abq87120]

I shot an 45 ACP HST +P through three one gallon milk jugs filled with water. HST I think means Hydro-Shock Two. WOW! That thing is a beast. The first two jugs exploded and the round was found in the sand a long way behind after bouncing off the creek bottom. It's all I carry now. Except for Hornady XTP in my wife's LCP 380. It gets good press going through clothing and expanding. In the winter I load her gun with FMJ. It's like stabbing them with an ice pick but it gets through the ski jackets at least. She also carries a G26 9mm when she is in the mood. With HST's in it of course.

 

[Warp]

abq87120]I shot an 45 ACP HST +P through three one gallon milk jugs filled with water. HST I think means Hydro-Shock Two. WOW! That thing is a beast. The first two jugs exploded and the round was found in the sand a long way behind after bouncing off the creek bottom. It's all I carry now. Except for Hornady XTP in my wife's LCP 380. It gets good press going through clothing and expanding. In the winter I load her gun with FMJ. It's like stabbing them with an ice pick but it gets through the ski jackets at least. She also carries a G26 9mm when she is in the mood. With HST's in it of course.

HST is a different round than hydra shok. Newer and, IMO, better. Good choice.

 

[heeler]

I have no dog in this fight but I was very interested in the post put forth by JRC45AUTO in which he stated the post in the Hydra-Shok was to prevent clogging.
How so??
I certainly am no expert on hollow point bullets but this statement did get my attention.
Anyone care to follow up on this?
Fwiw I had three boxes of standard pressure 9mm 124 gr. and two boxes of 147 gr. HST arrive by brown truck today.
Cant wait to try them out in the PM9.

 

[Rampant_Colt]

The post in H-S bullets (in conjunction with the skives) uses the physics of hydraulics to aid in bullet expansion. It also is what causes them to get clogged with clothing debris.. Go see my pic on page one.

It makes no sense to me when better performing ammunition is readily available, yet people still choose to use this outdated bullet design. It's your life, do as you choose. I want the best available ammo money can buy for my defensive needs

 

[YankeeFlyr]

Clogging?

Rampant Colt, did the .45 ACP fail to expand because it's clogged, or because the denim slowed it enough to where it didn't open when it came into the WP? I mean, isn't a 230 grainer from a 5 inch barrel kinda marginal velocities to open anyway in a typical bullet construction?

I didn't see any material in the HP, in the photo on the first page. But maybe I just missed it...

For the record, I do keep HS in 230 grain in the 1911, and 124 grain in the 9mm.

 

[Shawn Dodson]

Who wears 4 layers of denim?

4 layers of denim cannot make any kind of claim to reality, unless the guy was wearing 4 pairs of jeans or 4 denim jackets.

See: Why Four Layers of Denim Cloth? at - http://www.firearmstactical.com/tacticalbriefs/2006/04/02/0604-02a.htm

Maybe they should add some bone to it.

JHP handgun bullets are designed to expand in soft tissues. In a defensive shooting the kinds of tissues we’re trying to destroy are all soft tissues. These are reasons why bone isn’t normally used to test JHP bullet performance because: 1) JHP bullets aren’t designed to expand in bone – they just deform, and 2) the bullet’s terminal performance characteristics are entirely dependent on factors that cannot be controlled by the shooter (what bone is hit, where it is hit, angle of impact, depth of location along the wound track, bone density/thickness, etc.). The only terminal performance desired in bone, at least that I can think of, is for a bullet to blast through to reach vital tissues. Quite simply, performance in bone is what it is.

The post in the HS is to help prevent plugging.

This marketing claim is untrue.