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Youtube video from Magpul I think you guy's will enjoy

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by NYenthusiast, Apr 25, 2008.

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  1. NYenthusiast

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  2. Dravur

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    nice video and at least its not the one about the folding glock...

    But.... not to pick a nit, but going down range when someone else is blasting away behind you seems a little.... stupid. Now, they may have stopped shooting when the other was down range, but could not tell by the vid. I do realize that they were moving to the side as well as down range. Still seems to be breaking a number of rules.
     
  3. dewage83

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    it was alright. but I have to agree with Dravur, running down range while lead is flying down range, probably not for me...
     
  4. RiflemanTripleEight

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    On the range that might be a no go...in the real world you do what you gotta do.
     
  5. exar

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    Now you just need to go out and buy 'ya some of them fancy Magpul mag extension's used for better grip and hooking on your tacticool vest. Yeah, that's the ticket, then we can be as good as those guy's...:rolleyes::D
     
  6. Darthbauer

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    That and they do alot of training before they actually start live fire exercises like that. You dont just pick up your gun with someone you have never shot with before and start doing drills like that. A buddy of mine almost shot his brother in the back trying that once.
     
  7. NYenthusiast

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    What I dont think some of you are taking into account is that not only do these guy's train extensivley to perform these drills, but, they are not advertising it as something you should try at your local range. What I bielive they are advertising is a training program. Something that would be used in a real world gunfight.
     
  8. CannibalCrowley

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    I don't see the problem with going downrange in that fashion. How else are you supposed to practice fire and maneuver?
     
  9. Thernlund

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    I agree. Professional drivers, closed course.


    -T.
     
  10. Bazooka Joe71

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    Screw training and practice, all I need now are some Magpul accessories.

    Um, yeah...But that wasn't the real world and bullets weren't coming back at them.

    But I do agree, they weren't just a couple of strangers to each other. I'd imagine some extensive training went into that before the live exercises.
     
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    Haha! Exactly! Coming soon to a public range near you...

    It did look like they were running diagonally to the side, so yes, broke the imaginary firing line but was going in another direction also.
     
  12. .cheese.

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    see. if you buy Magpul stuff, you automatically become a tacticool ninja.

    .cheese. places an order for Pmags.
     
  13. VARifleman

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    One good way to get killed is to have to move like that in a firefight, yet let that be the first time you try it. You start slow with dummy guns, move on to fast with dummy guns, move back to real slow with live guns, and up the speed from there.
     
  14. MTMilitiaman

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    You have to train like you fight. If lead starts flying and you've never practiced that kind of movement before, you're 200 pounds of meat in a bag going home under a flag. And as stated, you start slow and work up to that point.

    BTW, that type of movement and communication is exactly, verbatim, what I was taught in The Corps. And it works.

    I would have liked to see them demonstrating it with their new Masada, but other than that, I think they did pretty damn good.

    Locate, close with, and destroy...
     
  15. g.willikers

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    Er, if there are bad guys around, aren't they running in the wrong direction?
    (Distance is your friend, yes?)
     
  16. MTMilitiaman

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    "The mission of the Marine Corp rifleman is to locate, close with, and destroy the enemy through fire and maneuver or to repel his assault through fire in close quarters."

    Granted, they may not be Marine Corp riflemen, but it is a classic and well coordinated display of getting online and assaulting through. Call contact, get online, and bound or fire team rush to and through the objective. It means taking the offensive, and robbing the enemy of the initiative. They can stay and die or get shot in the back running away. Either way, they all die, and there is nothing they can do about it.
     
  17. VARifleman

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    It depends on the situation.
     
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    Darthbauer:

    Its interesting you should say that, from the comments below the video:

    It appears to be a good testamonial to the quality of the training program that two people with the same training can meet each other and perform this well together w/o rehearsal.
     
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    Do I have to buy the sunglasses to be that Tacti-cool? Looks like they watched Heat too many times. Should appeal to mall ninjas everywhere.

    But I like their products.
     
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    That's exactly why it's such a great thing to have standardized training. Now, try the same thing with a full squad on a live fire range with supporting arms. Add in a bunch of hard core T's hopped up on drugs shooting back. That's exactly what the guys in the sand box are doing on a day in, day out basis. Good Lord, but I'm proud of each and every one of those guys.

    Nothing new or tacticool here, just good basic fire and maneuver.
     
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    Sometimes I think we take the tactical mall ninja hate a little too far. Are we really to the point where we feel its crazy to wear sunglasses on an outdoor range?

    Real shooters use muskets and wear only hand made clothes. Everyone else is a poseur.
     
  22. VARifleman

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    First off, this is a training program advertisement, not a Magpul products advertisement.

    Now on to the "mall ninja" statement...where to begin...

    Are they mall ninjas because they are well trained with firearms?

    Are they mall ninjas because they wear sun glasses outside, where it's bright and there is lots of glare?

    Seriously dude, those guys aren't wannabes. They have the skills and training, that perhaps you don't possess. That is no reason for you to speak ill of them. :scrutiny:
     
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    very nice video, same stuff we do in the army as well, at least in the infantry, granted I've gone over to the dark side. still remember the training, good times. I tell you, its a rush once you actually do that stuff with live rounds, mix in some live frags and its the best.
     
  24. Wes Janson

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    Is it just me, or were the barricades set up in a diagonal line? It appeared that with each forward movement they were also moving several feet to the right, and that the mover was always several feet to the right of the shooter's line of fire.
     
  25. VARifleman

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    That seems to be the case Wes.
     
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