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Yugoslavia ducks out the arms game

Discussion in 'Legal' started by cold dead hands, Mar 17, 2007.

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  1. cold dead hands

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    I was at ye olde gunshop and managed to catch the tail end of a conversation as I walked in. It seems that Yugoslavia has signed some sort of accord for the U.N. that states that they will no no longer be sending anything firearms related to the U.S. I have reason to trust that these guys are knowledgable about this because they sell lots of surplus and imports for reasonable prices. I suppose it is possible, but it seems to me that the American market is pretty large and they stand to lose a chunk of change unless they are being reimbersed somehow. So, does anybody here know about this development? If it is true are you gonna buy up stuff knowing that may be the end of it?
     
  2. wooderson

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    Why would the UN negotiate a voluntary restraint of trade agreement involving only Yugoslavia and the US?
     
  3. Lucky

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    Because the hail Mary's didn't work, so they're returned to running the ball a few yards at a time? They never take a break, never give up. Why would anyone expect them to have stopped?
     
  4. TexasRifleman

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    Seriously, any story that starts with "the gunshop guys said"........


    I bet they made you a heck of a deal on some Yugos too, since you KNOW there are not gonna be any more and you better buy them NOW.
     
  5. K-Romulus

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    could be the IANSA "surplus" ban

    IANSA has been trying to get countries to destroy surplus ordnance rather than sell to other countries or (shudder) non-governmental buyers like the US "civilian" market. http://www.iansa.org/documents/index.htm

    This is why the Australian surplus 7.62 ammo has disappeared, along with a lot of other countries' imported surplus ammo.
     
  6. Car Knocker

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    I'm on half a dozen forums and it seems a bit odd that the news on an event like this would first see the light of day in a gunshop somewhere. I have to question the quality of your source.
     
  7. Husker1911

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    I don't believe Yugoslavia exists anymore.
     
  8. cold dead hands

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    No Yugo stuff here

    Seriously, what makes you think that they are trying to sham me. I have been a customer for years and have never had any problems as far as honesty policy with these guys. They are concerned because this is Arkansas, Land of HOW CHEAP CAN I GET IT? rednecks for the most part. Surplus and and inexpensive goes like mad out the door of this place. The ATF told the owner that he has the highest sales count of any gunshop in the state and I do not doubt it. It is almost always very busy and people here love their guns, me included. But, since you had to ask, I mostly collect handguns and only own a Norinco SKS and a 10/22 for rifles, though i really want a FAL or DPMS in .308 plus some lever guns. I have little interest Com-Bloc weapons, except for my Cz-52.
     
  9. TexasRifleman

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    Well the fact that the poster above you is correct, there IS NO SUCH COUNTRY as Yugoslavia LOL........
     
  10. RevolvingCylinder

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    You would be right. There is no Yugoslavia. How can one make a formal agreement with a non-existent entity? This individual obviously has no credibility and is probably trying to trigger panic buying or justify increases in prices.
     
  11. K-Romulus

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    well, Serbia and Montenegro were "Rump Yugoslavia"

    I don't know if they were talking about "Serbia" and using the term "Yugoslavia" for old times' sake. :confused:
     
  12. TexasRifleman

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    Dunno. You seem convinced they are correct so I don't know much else to say.

    I can find nothing remotely like that in any searches I've done and you'd think something like that would show up SOMEWHERE, especially in the C&R forums.

    May very well turn out to be true, but you'd think it would have made the radar by now to collectors groups.
     
  13. Old Fuff

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    Don't conclude that anyone at the shop was trying to scam you. They may honestly believe whoever told them this. While I am pretty sure the story isn't true, I'm not equally sure the shop folks were out to cheat you.

    Give it a little time and see what develops... ;)
     
  14. cold dead hands

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    Current geophraphy

    Yes, I am very aware that the entity known as Yugoslavia has desolved but that part of the world is still under control by the same folks when the U.S.S.R. existed and they are the ones doing the dealing. You do have to understand that the names of countries are not readily updated for the common folk of this area. <>so I was just trying to relay what I heard and was looking for some feedback because the gun grabbers never sleep.
     
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    lol i guess i must be out of the circle. hear ive been thinking Yugoslavia has been a country this whole time! LOL btw what has this country been renamed?
     
  16. TexasRifleman

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    It is now split between Serbia and Montenegro.
     
  17. RevolvingCylinder

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    Art wuz here.
     
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    Yes, there is progress being made on having Yugoslavia (Serbia, Montenegro) to sign on. Last I read it was being discu$$ed but nothing official. Some countries have signed on (e.g., Australia and South Africa) and destroy all surplus ammo rather than ship it to the USA, others are holding out for a bigger bribe and will sign once payment is received.

    Drying up the ammo market is a high priority for the antis. They hope to turn your guns into clubs.
     
  19. TexasRifleman

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    El Tejon, can you provide documentation of this somewhere?

    I'm aware of the Australia thing, but haven't seen anything involving other countries.
     
  20. Titan6

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    Yugoslavia has been split into 9 separate republics with no central government. The seat of the old central government was located in the current republic of Serbia.

    Odd that few seem to know this as the first of several wars in Europe since WW II were fought there, there have been several genocides and of course the US has deployed over 100,000 troops there in the last 15 years.
     
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    Word to the wise - 97.52% of what you hear in gun shops is bunk.
     
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  24. Green Lantern

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    Ahem. On-topic, I only feel better because it does not seem to be "on the radar" much - not so much that the guys got their "terminology" wrong.

    Yeah, IANSA preaches that the *US* exports too many weapons OUT of the country. But American gun owners have to be a giant thorn in their side (along with ALL lawful gun owners in the world)...

    You don't think IANSA's above actually doing something like this just to screw us over, do you????
     
  25. razorburn

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    I believe colddeadhands is talking about his particular location in arkansas with that statement:
    I also don't see where he used the word racist anywhere.
     
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