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Zumbo: Gun rag writer trashes "Assault Weapons"

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by blackhawk2000, Feb 17, 2007.

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  1. nemoaz

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    Freedom of speech has nothing to do with this thread, unless some level of govt was trying to censor one or another viewpoint of which I'm not aware of it.

    Non-governmental actors (employers, magazines, internet forums, private citizens etc) can say or ban anything they want.
     
  2. wooderson

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    Is 'Outdoor Life' a 'gun rag'? I've only looked through it at the odd doctor's office (don't hunt, don't fish, camp rarely) but the name tells me that it's an, uh, 'outdoor' magazine.

    I don't expect "Soldier of Fortune" and "Texas Fish & Game" to be interchangeable on too much.
     
  3. 22-rimfire

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    I agree with Zumbo concerning choice of hunting rifles and the impression it gives to people who don't hunt. Those that hunt need to care.

    Added to reflect my overall view of the article: He may have crossed the line just a bit.
     
  4. Atticus

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    Mr. Zumbo can hunt with whatever rifle he chooses to use, however, he stepped WAY over the line when he started with the "Terrorist" rifle BS. He is clearly living in a bubble, filled with free guns and free hunting trips...and maybe some noxious gas. If this was just a sorry attempt to sell Remington rifles (who are no doubt losing much of the varmit market to AR15 style rifles)..it is simply disgusting.
     
  5. Remander

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    Sorry, Art. Thanks for the edit on my post.
     
  6. torpid

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    I'm concerned about the impression that hunting with unsporting sniper-scoped rifles gives to people who don't hunt. Those that bowhunt need to care.

    They can take your fire-spitting kill sticks for all I care, as long as they leave archers (AKA real sportsmen hunters) be.

    Maybe I'll even print an article in Outdoor Life about how these gun crazy "shooters" that blast away at distant targets are giving "responsible" (bow) hunters a bad name!

    After all, people don't shoot up schools with bows.

    :rolleyes:

    (sarcasm off)

    ...we're all in this together, my friend- divided, we will eventually all lose our 2nd Amendment rights.
     
  7. fatelk

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    It's difficult to be reminded that there are millions of hunters and sportsmen in this country that have no regard or even understanding of the right to keep and bear arms. It's not about hunting. I've heard many hunters say something like "Nobody needs those automatic army guns; they're no good for hunting".

    Even in the most totalitarian or socialistic countries the elite have firearms and are allowed to hunt. The average person in those countries, however, has no rights. America is a place where the average person has the same rights as the elite, as much as that irks the elite. OK, it doesn't always work that way in practice, but it should.
    The semi-auto stuff isn't really my thing but I do agree, the goal of those that demonize them is the total confiscation and destruction of all firearms not in the hands on military, police, or the elite. Make no mistake about that.

    Mr. Zumbo and many like him are simply unwitting dupes that have bought the lie that the only legitimate purpose for privately owned firearms is hunting.
     
  8. MechAg94

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    Whatever you do, torpid, just don't use night arrows.
     
  9. s&w 24

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    the only artical the late Bill Jordan wrote that pissed me off said mostly the same thing. I still have repect for Mr. Jordan but this other knucklehead? Outdoor life isn't getting any of my money.
     
  10. poor_richard

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    That's because your a bigot.
     
  11. Blue .45

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    Which trailer park do live in where the average resident can afford a couple of new AR's ? It seems your "white trash" is living better than the middle class in my neighborhood. :D
     
  12. ConfuseUs

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    I took the time to scroll down the loooooong list of anti-Zumbo rants, many of which were less than constructive criticism. Here's my addition:

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    Mr. Zumbo, while you were off blissfully hunting and ignoring what Congress was up to during the summer of 2004 the Senate was considering an extension to the ban of those "assault rifles" you want to yank out of our hands. One of the riders on that extension was going to ban ALL centerfire rifle ammo that is too "powerful", meaning as powerful as a .223 Remington. If this ban became law, Remington would have stopped making hunting rifle ammunition altogether, and YOU would not now be railing against the use of "unsporting" arms in the field. YOU would be out of a job, and crying about how YOU can't hunt with your prized bolt rifle. I've read a great deal of the vitriolic comments, and you deserve each and every one of them. I hope this adds some perspective to your position on gun ownership and why hunters who are ignorant about gun control won't hunt for much longer.
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    I wonder if he'll actually read it because the mud of rabid vituperation is so thick. A lot of :cuss: but I think pointing out what wrestling with the pigs almost got him will work best. For grins, reopen the window after a couple of minutes. :D
     
  13. Cosmoline

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    These are not the views of someone who just doesn't know any better. This is rank anti-gun rhetoric coming from an alleged gun and hunting expert. Pound him hard. Beat him down. Crush his will to live. More to the point, STOP SUPPORTING HIS BUSINESS! The man has a thriving little business selling *US* his books and junk on hunting, and apparently as a shill for Remington. That means WE BUTTER THIS MAN'S BREAD! A person in his position, spouting this kind of VPC nonsense, could do a lot of damage to us. Make Remington and the Outdoor Channel know it will not be tolerated.

    http://www.outdoorchannel.com/compa...bo Outdoors presented by Remington&showID=450

    Understand, people, the antis have long hoped to use a divide an conquer strategy against us. They want to make hunters afraid that if they don't support "reasonable gun laws" such as the AWB, their own hunting rights might be taken away. Zumbo is assisting them with this strategy, and as such has betrayed us all. Not to mention calling millions of us "terrorists" because he's scared of the way our rifles look.
     
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    With that point of view I couldn't buy american made weapons since some of them were used by the IRA to kill British soldiers. Its the same logic.
     
  15. Cosmoline

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    Not to mention the fact that the US government just purchased brand new AK-47's for the Iraqi army, plus the x39 to go with them--all from those same "commie" arsenals.
     
  16. Mortech

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    And here I am hunting with my WSAR10 or my Cetme , I don't know about him but after coming across a couple of meth cooking operations I ALWAYS use one of the 2 for hunting out here instead of my ol SMLE . Would you want to have in yours hands if you came across some wacked out morons marijuana growing / meth cooking site ??? Those fools don't play !
     
  17. HGUNHNTR

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    "If you can't hit it withthe first round you probably shouldn't be hunting" I'm sorry but what in the H$LL does it hurt to have the availability of a follow up shot. An unethical hunter will be prone to far more seroius infringements of the law than the spray and pray people seem to be talking about. The talk of limiting an americans right to hunt with a gun legal for taking game based on looks, or BETTER performance is some cases is rediculous. I am cancelling my subscription to Outdoor Life immediately. Zumbo needs to write on Fly Fishing.
     
  18. Rembrandt

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    Mr Zumbo seems to be the guilty party lumping hunters as terrorists....these comments will haunt and mark him as the Jane Fonda of Gun writers.

    Unfortunately there are many more just like him, a few years ago someone from the NRA spoke to the Outdoor Writers convention and was chastised by their group.
     
  19. CajunBass

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    I don't consider "Outdoor Life" to be a "gun rag." It's not that good. I don't even read it in the doctors office.

    It's a perch jerking, and butterfly watching, magazine now. Somewhere Jack O'Conner is spinning in his grave.
     
  20. No_Brakes23

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    Wow, I didn't realize that I was a terrorist because I might want to use the civilian version of the rifle I served my country with. I didn't realize that an injured writst that makes pistol grips more comfortable than monte carlo stocks made me a terrorist. Thanks Mr. Zumbo for letting me know that.

    What kind of rifle was that he was using again? Was it a semi modern design that is derivative of the '03A3 and Mauser? So he is used a civilian rifle patterned after a military design? Hypocrite.

    Well he certainly got lit up in the comments. I put in my $.02 and emailed The Outdoor Channel. I think I might have to let Remington hear my displeasure as well. And since I tend to favor Remington designs, the threat of voting with my wallet is not an empty one.
     
  21. MinScout

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    While I don't agree with Mr Zumbo's article, It's not nearly as ugly as some of the responses. Nice language. :rolleyes:
     
  22. Travis Lee

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    Being polite has been a losing strategy for 70 years.

    I don't plan to be polite to those who, given the power, will make me a criminal, send me to prison, or have me killed.

    --Travis--
     
  23. qajaq59

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    Save your money and read the forums.

    Having worked and hunted with several outdooor writers, I gave up buying or reading their nonsense 30 years ago. You'll find more useful information in some of the forums then you will ever get from 90% of them.
     
  24. pacodelahoya

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    I haven't been a member here long but I had been lurking for years. I wish you guys would jump on some of the members they way you have jumped on this writer. One of my first posts was about gun snobs and how they hurt the gun community. Heck, I posted yesterday about the same thing, about gun owners being our own worst enemy.

    Look at some of the replies on this thread, you'll see it right in front of you.:barf:
     
  25. MP-44

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    I e-mailed the editor.
     
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