Goex, Goex OE, Scheutzen and swiss in stock
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ThomasT
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This link is a little more direct to the powder.
https://www.powdervalleyinc.com/product-category/reloading-supplies/powder/black-powder-substitutes/
https://www.powdervalleyinc.com/product-category/reloading-supplies/powder/black-powder-substitutes/
arcticap
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It's nice to see the full variety of all powders available for a change.
TheOutlawKid
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Thanks for the link! Although i no longer buy powder (i have..it is very helpful for those who are in need and/or have been waiting for supplies to be restocked. I wonder if stocks will ever get so dry for a long while that we will have to resort to making our own if we want to continue shooting.
Jackrabbit1957
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In my area timing is crucial to buy powder of any kind. I believe it's just a matter of time before Hide n Biden pencil whips black powder or black powder firearms into being illegal, hopefully those idjits will be asleep at the wheel for a bit longer.
arcticap
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I just don't envision that happening.
There's black powder manufacturers around the world that we have never seen imported into the US because our market doesn't have the demand for it.
Just think about all of the fireworks powder that's produced worldwide that could be sold for sporting purposes if really needed.
IMO the folks who make their own powder do help relieve market pressure by those who may hoard black powder.
But the substitute powders also help to protect the market in that way.
If there was an impending shortage, the prices would increase to make the sub. powders much more popular.
We've lost some brands of both black and sub. powders, yet there hasn't been any actual shortages.
Mostly only minor distribution issues probably due to shipping it from Europe by boat.
Resourceful importers could probably source more brands of powder from around the world if they really wanted to.
But there must be a lot of red tape involved and there really aren't any shortages that justify the effort.
People are used to buying their familiar brands and don't mind waiting to be able to buy, especially when many folks have some in reserve.
If black powder became too expensive compared to the sub's, then folks will begin to split their orders and use different powders to fill their needs.
Here it is years later yet folks still have amounts of KIK, Elephant, Black MZ and other powders in storage.
Maybe world war 3 could interrupt supply but no one can predict that.
If folks were concerned then they could just use their stimulus money and hoard enough commercial powder, lead and caps to last 2 lifetimes and not worry about it.
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Probably going to irritate some folks but in my old age, sometimes tough love is the best medicine.
I've read these threads of "the sky is falling" on black powder and whining about not being able to find supplies. They're on about every forum or social media that has something about shooting. I've posted where to get it and I've had no problems getting either powder or caps. The whiners don't listen and take advantage of it and support a little guy, then too bad. I'm not helping you out. Get stingy and want just one pound at your local brick and mortar, don't whine cuz they aren't going to stock a couple pounds and put up with the regulations and expenses just for those who only want a pound or so each year.
Bottom line- there has be virtually NO shortage of black powder and caps this year if you spend a bit of time and know sources. I don't care what your local brick n mortar does cause that's a different business model and face it, yer small taters in the economic picture with mom n pop when you only want one or two pounds. I haven't let up a bit in my shooting black powder this year. I'm still going through about 30+lbs per year with equal amounts of caps. I haven't had any issues in getting powder and caps. With the amount I order, the hazmat is just a nuisance charge if I don't pick up and when I've pooled with some of my fellow competitors, it became even less of a problem. We're even still shooting the cannon at a half pound per shot.
My point here- quit whining, do research, know sources, know others you can pool with, know alternate sources (fireworks guys), keep shooting and have fun in spite of things. Best revenge on those guys is living well and having fun.
I've read these threads of "the sky is falling" on black powder and whining about not being able to find supplies. They're on about every forum or social media that has something about shooting. I've posted where to get it and I've had no problems getting either powder or caps. The whiners don't listen and take advantage of it and support a little guy, then too bad. I'm not helping you out. Get stingy and want just one pound at your local brick and mortar, don't whine cuz they aren't going to stock a couple pounds and put up with the regulations and expenses just for those who only want a pound or so each year.
Bottom line- there has be virtually NO shortage of black powder and caps this year if you spend a bit of time and know sources. I don't care what your local brick n mortar does cause that's a different business model and face it, yer small taters in the economic picture with mom n pop when you only want one or two pounds. I haven't let up a bit in my shooting black powder this year. I'm still going through about 30+lbs per year with equal amounts of caps. I haven't had any issues in getting powder and caps. With the amount I order, the hazmat is just a nuisance charge if I don't pick up and when I've pooled with some of my fellow competitors, it became even less of a problem. We're even still shooting the cannon at a half pound per shot.
My point here- quit whining, do research, know sources, know others you can pool with, know alternate sources (fireworks guys), keep shooting and have fun in spite of things. Best revenge on those guys is living well and having fun.
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Blackpowderwarrior
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I like your style. That's exactly what i do
arcticap
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It occurs to me that there could be a catastrophic event affecting the Goex plant that could disrupt the supply of black powder.
We really don't know what kind of stockpiles that Goex has, or the precautions that they have taken to minimize damage if there was a major event.
In that respect it's sad that the US only has one black powder manufacturer.
On the other hand, there's one made in France named Vectan that we've heard about but have never seen ir imported here. --->>> https://www.titanobel.com/en/explosives-and-accessories/black-powder
https://www.westernguns.fr/chargement-par-la-bouche/poudres-noires/9868-poudre-noire-mousquet.html
We really don't know what kind of stockpiles that Goex has, or the precautions that they have taken to minimize damage if there was a major event.
In that respect it's sad that the US only has one black powder manufacturer.
On the other hand, there's one made in France named Vectan that we've heard about but have never seen ir imported here. --->>> https://www.titanobel.com/en/explosives-and-accessories/black-powder
https://www.westernguns.fr/chargement-par-la-bouche/poudres-noires/9868-poudre-noire-mousquet.html
gtrgy888
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FINALLY I have a pound of Swiss fffg. Thank you for the link! Somehow, despite my best efforts to shoot through my lesser preferred powders (Goex, 777), I always seem to have enough to roll 15-30 paper cartridges for a day of plinking. I swear that the powder gremlins have been sneaking in at night to refill the containers and keep me from ever getting to use my quality stuff.
Even if there is a problem, there is Schutzen Energetics with plenty in stock. I'd love to try some powder other than Swiss. The quest for accuracy never truly ends.
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Don Van Winkle
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Great to know BP is back in stock. My Darling wife picked me up a bunch at the Phoenix gun show this weekend. Now all I need is a way to make caps. Got plenty of round ball ammo. Oh yeah just updated my profile pic after re-finishing the grips. Got that dark stain off of them finally.
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Blackpowderwarrior
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Don,
Its always a good idea when its available to pick up a few lbs. Then before you know you've got enough holy black to ride out a storm for a few months/years. Ive been blessed to always have access to the holy black but i would use prodex, triple 7 or APP in a pinch. I try and buy whats available and what i know i'll use. Ive got a few lbs of triple 7 that im not the biggest fan of but i keep it just in case. Great job on the handles btw what are your future plans for them or are they finished?
Red can Goex isn’t their best. That would be Old Eynsford. Like regular and premium at the gas station.
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Blackpowderwarrior
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You are correct. OE is stout stuff. I own both and love both. But the old red and black is my personal favorite. I started out muzzleloading on it and worked up good accurate loads with it. I "cut my teeth" on it so to speak. Good memories good times. When people ask about BP i always recomend you cant go wrong with good ol American GOEX. Sure theres swiss and OE ..... But for me, Im a goex man.
Don Van Winkle
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I finished them with beeswax and a bit of tru oil.
earlthegoat2
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Most all of it is still in stock. I didn’t know we all had such restraint.
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Blackpowderwarrior
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Im honestly ok for a good while. I won't be contributing to the dent of in stock items at powder valley this time.
get em while they're hot Amigos
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