so called cowboy "assault rifles"

It’s just a fun thing to compare them to.

Lever guns neither won the west nor were the most common firearm on the western frontier. Their historical context has been as romanticized as piracy in the Caribbean.

They are just a fun action type with historical significance.

Warning Boomer rant ahead…

They’ve taken our most iconic and innocuous looking rifle and made it scary looking. Now the Antis can throw them in the mix with all the other “black is BAD” rifles.

Similar screw-up as when people pointed out that ‘Assault Weapons’ and ‘sniper rifles’ functioned the same way as grand-dad’s old hunting rifles. “Oh, really? Guess we should ban those too!”

Just like Ted Nugent demonstrating how destructive an old fashioned 12ga was. Better put those on the list….

There is an old saying-wise as serpents and harmless (looking) as doves…

Those old “brown guns” may be all we have left. Leave ‘em the hell alone!

Boomer rant off….

Lol

So far, the anti-"assault rifle" campaign has focused on semiautomatic firearms with removable magazines. Nobody has proposed banning bolt or lever guns as "assault weapons."

I think it's silly if you have better options. My state just banned sales of almost all centerfire semi auto rifles. You can keep what you already had. So an assault lever action is your best bet if you don't already own one of the infinitely better semi auto options.
I have other options and I think cerakote and rails on a lever gun are an eyesore anyways so I'm unlikely to jump on the trend

My old Marlin Model 1894SS in .44 Magnum and topped with a red dot isn't particularly ugly and I think that it will do the job.
I often carry it when I'm also carrying my old SBH, also in .44 mag... .

I've got mixed feelings about them. It took a while for me to get my head wrapped around the idea. Neither my '73 Winchester nor my pre-64 model 94 will be getting a rail!

AlexanderA said:

So far, the anti-"assault rifle" campaign has focused on semiautomatic firearms with removable magazines. Nobody has proposed banning bolt or lever guns as "assault weapons."

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But they have proposed banning bolt guns as "sniper rifles."

I sold a Marlin 336 to a friend, and he wanted me to TAC it out for him. I told him I would go as far as I'm comfortable...

This is as far as I got... an XS Sights Scout rail with a red dot.




Truthfully, lever-actions are just as serviceable as any other rifle, within it's limits. Sprucing one up with poly and plastic, and hanging a bunch of stuff off it to turn it into a pesudo 'assault weapon'... while I think is silly, may fit someone's particular mission profile, and that's not even considering those poor folk living in areas with Marxist gun controls. For that matter, my AR's don't have a bunch of crap hanging off them... they are about as simple as I can make them.

Lever guns neither won the west nor were the most common firearm on the western frontier. Their historical context has been as romanticized

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This:

Lever guns are an American only thing. While we were playing Cowboys and Indians the rest of the world was using far better rifles and cartridges. The 30-30 was a step backwards technologically, far better options had been available for 4-5 years before it was introduced. They weren't particularly popular nor that common until the Cowboy movies made between the 1920's and the 1970's.

If semi-auto rifles were not an option a version of a Scout type bolt gun in 223, 308 or a similar cartridge is a better choice than a tactical lever gun. They cost less, are more accurate, more powerful, more reliable, can be reloaded faster, and are easier to manipulate from prone or from behind cover. And when fired prone or in any other supported position are faster for repeat shots. Lever guns are only slightly faster when fired while standing up exposed to return fire. Those are the exact reasons lever guns were rejected by the military in favor of bolt guns over 100 years ago.

'The Rifleman' didn't need any doodads lol

No. Just no.

AlexanderA said:

So far, the anti-"assault rifle" campaign has focused on semiautomatic firearms with removable magazines. Nobody has proposed banning bolt or lever guns as "assault weapons."

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Gotta love an optimist…

Lol

Uh, no, cowboys did not have assault rifles and that term is a, uh, shall I say, loaded term, politically and pun intended.

Also, the idea that putting AR type furniture on a lever gun or shotgun is going to raise the ire of the gun banners is flawed. The air gun folks, some of them, have the same idea that making air guns more powerful will get them regulated. Really, what is next, blow guns and bows with pulleys on them? We are all on the ban list.

If you want to build a lever gun with M-Lock rails to make it more useful to your needs and purpose, be my guest.

Boomer rant off.

Mr. Olden Retired Coastie, there is a edit function that allows you to compress posts, . Just saying .

Yes, some Midwestern states have straight wall cartridge only requirements and in some the cartridge case cannot be longer than 1.8 inches, others it need only be straight wall. And yes, the taper of a .45-70 and similar case is considered to be a straight wall.

No don't lump levers with the "bad" rifles. That is counterproductive. If you have a fantasy that your lever gun is tactical keep it to yourself. I love my 94 30-30. I would not desecrate it by making it in any way tacticool. Which is childish and silly anyway.

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Lever guns are an American only thing. While we were playing Cowboys and Indians the rest of the world was using far better rifles and cartridges. The 30-30 was a step backwards technologically, far better options had been available for 4-5 years before it was introduced. They weren't particularly popular nor that common until the Cowboy movies made between the 1920's and the 1970's.

If semi-auto rifles were not an option a version of a Scout type bolt gun in 223, 308 or a similar cartridge is a better choice than a tactical lever gun. They cost less, are more accurate, more powerful, more reliable, can be reloaded faster, and are easier to manipulate from prone or from behind cover. And when fired prone or in any other supported position are faster for repeat shots. Lever guns are only slightly faster when fired while standing up exposed to return fire. Those are the exact reasons lever guns were rejected by the military in favor of bolt guns over 100 years ago.

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Custer agreed with you .

You probably do not even like apple pie .

Personally think people get kinda silly when the subject of leverguns comes up. They MUST be pigeon-holed and any attempt to move them outside that little compartment is met with harsh resistance. The purists and Fudds come out of the woodwork and it's never positive.

IMHO, the levergun is a terribly underrated utility and defensive option. They have distinct advantages over both semi-autos and boltguns but I'll be damned if some folks will ever recognize them.

I'd rather have an M1 M14 kinda thing, but respect lever rifles.

Like shotguns, the hole dented magazine tube bit, kinda scared me off of them.

All my small caliber rifles are AR's now. Nothing big left, kinda in that market maybe.