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There is no difference between the argument to legalize pot and the argument to legalize the hard drugs. The argument is that it is none of your damn business what another human being puts into his own body. This board grows more unbelievably hypocritical by the minute. (Art's Grammaw...

Too broad a brush, Selfdfenz? Maybe. But there are way too many people here who think freedom means that they can do whatever they want and everyone else can do exactly what they tell them to do. They whine incessantly about their rights being curtailed but don't miss an opportunity to stick to...

Anither thread full of mindless crap from the "rights for me, but not for thee" crowd. There are people here fighting the good fight, but most people on this board don't want anything remotely resembling freedom.

I'll remember you said this. Catering to irrational people will not save your guns. It's the surest way to lose them. Prohibition laws are the reason for the nasty mix. More of the same won't stop it. When was the last time you read about Beer and Rum distributors shooting at each other...

The CEO doesn't own the company, the shareholders do. The CEO is an employee just like the janitor, even if he also owns shares, which isn't always the case. A tax structure that taxes income twice is hardly a benefit, and although personal liability is limited for shareholders that's because...

Property rights are individual rights. Individual are the only kind of rights there are. Corporations have rights because, legally, they are individuals, even if they weren't legally individuals they would derive their rights from the individuals who own them. Those individuals do no give up any...

Irrelevant. Other rights violations don't justify this one.

It seems like 800 rounds of frangible ammo would be very expensive. I'll have to follow up with the school. Thanks for the info.

Why was a constitutional amendment needed to ban alcohol? Because the ninth amendment gives people the right to drink alcohol - and take drugs and all of the other things that they do that harm no one but themselves. The bill of rights is not the complete list of the rights of man. Because...

Bubbles, The website says you need at least 800 rounds of frangible ammo for the hand gun classes . What did that cost?

What do you want to bet the next guy kills a bunch of people does so with a gun? Was a gun nut? Care to make any unwarranted generalizations about that? Read the ninth and tenth amendments again. Come back when you know what you are talking about.

You are arguing for the ability punish this man for committing no actual harm to any one. I'm not talking about what he has done in the past, but what he is in jail for now. He didn't hurt any one. He simply lives a life you don't want him to live. He does things you don't want him to do. He...

Not for nothin', but people are still, like I did originally, arguing against the accepted concept of collective rights, not the concept Greystar decided to make up for this thread. They are similar, but Greystar is using semantics that make his definition a little more interesting and harder to...

55 years is a long time. The way things are going concerning gun rights, you might have the cell next to him one day, put there by the very arguments you used to justify putting him there. The irony will be painful.

This is an entirely new definition of collective right. That's why everyone else is on a different page.

Justin got it right. There are no collective rights. None. If the group has rights but individuals don't, all "collective rights" means, in the end, is that some people have rights and others don't. Some individuals will be allowed to exercise that right, while others are denied. The very...

Ayn Rand referred to Libertarians as "hippies of the right". There is no need to get off the Objectivist pedestal, kick some @s, then get back on. This implies hypocrisy. The two are completely compatible (Objectivism and kicking @ss,that is).

Why does it shock you that people who are pro-freedom are consistently pro-freedom? It shocks me that people don't see the similarities between the arguments for prohibition are the same for alcohol, drugs, and guns. I guess it only matters if it affects the things you do.

This is the fastest bittorrent I've ever downloaded. Getteng 250K per sec. I'll leave mine up the rest of the evening.

By other people's rights. Only. Legitimate means you don't have a right to all of the made up things people claim a right to. Because those rights would require the violation of other's rights in order to provide them. No one has a right to violate other's rights. If they did, the entire concept...