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I'm shopping for a shooting sling for my Marlin 980S .22 rifle. I'm looking for the type that loops under your shoulder to stabilize the rifle (i.e. not just a carrying strap). I just want to be sure I get one that will work with the 980. Not sure if a Ching sling is the way to go, or something...

Thanks for the great info. It does seem like a good deal, $400 for the gun (fewer than 100 rounds through it) with 1 mag. Don't know what else it comes with, but I'll be calling the seller soon. Anything to look out for, like police surplus sell-offs or anything else? I've seen some ads for...

One other question. What does a new Glock come with, so I can find out if anything is missing? I know it should come with manual, box. What about the grip extender? Does that usually come with the 27, or is it an after-market item? Also, it should come with 2 magazines, right? This one only...

Thanks for the reply, and for the heads-up about viewing the pic. I'll see if I can upload it here:

I found a local deal on a used Glock 27 and was just wondering if I need to make sure whether or not it's 3rd Gen. The online info I found seems to suggest that only some of the earlier models exist in pre-3rd gen versions, but I wanted to be sure this is the case. Here's a link to the picture...

My pistol is a Ruger Mark III, with a 5.5 inch barrel. Guess this means I should get the subsonic ammo.

I was wondering if there's a difference in muzzle velocity for a given round of .22lr when fired from a rifle vs. a pistol. I want to use sub-sonic ammo for practice with my pistol at a nearby desert and I'm wondering whether the Remington ammo I have (which lists its muzzle velocity as 1280fps)...

It definitely seems like the smart thing to me now after having gotten some good advice here. But when I first found this forum I was planning on starting off with 338 lapua. :o Now I realize I'll never need anything more powerful than .308.

What's a good magnification factor for the binoculars? Is 10X too much, should I with the 6x-8x range?

Thanks for the thorough list. I'll be sure to bring any necessary tools as well. I'm assuming I won't need the spotting scope or binoculars, as I've decided to learn on iron sights and hold off on buying a scope. Guess it couldn't hurt to pick up a pair of binoculars now though.

Thanks for all the great tips. I forgot to mention that I do have eye and ear protection. Definitely wouldn't have thought to bring a stapler or tape to post the targets though! It's little things like that that could make the first trip to the range a wasted, or at least unpleasant one. Can't...

With a lot of good advice from the knowledgeable and generous members of this forum, I've finally purchased one each of a rifle and pistol in .22lr for learning how to shoot. The endless 10-day wait is up tomorrow, when I'll be picking up the guns. I'll be going to the range to start practicing...

I do appreciate the help. Not big on shopping for clothes, so glad I was able to rescue those shirts.

Got back from shopping, ran the load again with Tide, OxiClean, Clorox 2 bleach, and Dawn dish soap. Wow, that did the job! After 3 loads using just Cheer powder detergent, the smell was very noticeable. After running it with this mix, I could barely smell the CLP on the clothes. I'm running it...

Thanks for the tips. I'm heading over to Walmart right now with a shopping list of the all the products you recommended. :D

I'm new to guns and just did a very stupid thing. After cleaning my shotgun, I threw a few rags heavily soiled with Breakfree CLP in the laundry with a some of my favorite shirts. Of course the whole load came out smelling of gun oil. I'm wondering if there are any detergents or other products...

Thanks for all the feedback. If they do ship UPS that's not a problem, as then I get it delivered to my door. But even if it's USPS it's not that big a deal, as long as the shipping label doesn't include the tagline from the website: "Just about everything for shooting, reloading, gunsmithing...

I'm about to buy a bunch of gun cleaning supplies online and I need to make sure the company I buy from ships discreetly (i.e. so that you can't tell from the box that it's gun supplies). I live in an apartment building where all packages are delivered to the management office, and my supper...

Well that's something to consider. The rifle is a Marlin too. It doesn't take too much to convince me NOT to do any kind of cleaning!

Thanks, that clears it up. :D