MagnumDweeb
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Now I've thought long and hard about doing a project on converting a TT-33 to 9x23 Winchester, and yes I know some folks have had a measure of success doing it with the Witness Steel 38 Supers but I'm thinking of the TT-33 in particular.
In particular because on 10mmtalk a lot of folks have complaints about using the stouter 10mm loads in their witnesses and the frames and slides cracking because of it. So the 9x23 might be far too much for the Witness Steel models, if anyone has had some success then please share.
The TT-33 Romanian as is present for relatively cheap sale on the market, is made by those old fashion sturdy steel steel that made the communist production of small arms quite impressive. While there are folks on the forumns saying that the TT-33 will stand up to almost nuclear strength loads of the 9x23, again it is only talk. There isn't any video or proof as far as I can find.
Ideally the TT-33 9x23 would offer loads in 120+ grain that would be on par with all loads fired from a .357 Magnum with a 4" barrell lenght. If you go to brassfetcher though you will find that the deepest penetration is only 11.5 inches which does not meet the FBI standard 12 inch test. The ammunition is also rare and essentially expensive in compare to its .357 counterpart, but you do get that 8+1 capacity.
But there is the 10mm, far more tested for the mainstream consumption by the public. The 10mm is probably more notable in the Glock 20 where doubletap loads have been used with quite a great deal of success without damaging the gun. All guns wear out after a time but the 10mm in Glock or say Dan Wesson seem to be getting quite the lifespan using loads in the 1200fps-1400fps. The TT-33 would be a newcomer if used with 9x23Win and thus maybe not the best alternative but running the math it could be done for around $400 and you would still have the 7.62x25 caliber at your utility, and if you ordered the extra 9mm barrel you didn't convert you'd have the 9mm caliber available.
I'm not a fan of the 9mm and sold my only one to cousin when she got her CCW permit, but I have a ton of 9mm brass sitting in containers waiting to be reloaded, so maybe the TT-33 might make a nice 9mm shooter but I don't think it will stand up to the measure of the 10mm Glock 20 well enough not to make that extra two hundred dollar investment.
Again though maybe I'm wrong and there are folks who love the 9x23Win caliber and are enjoying it immensely, if you please share.
In particular because on 10mmtalk a lot of folks have complaints about using the stouter 10mm loads in their witnesses and the frames and slides cracking because of it. So the 9x23 might be far too much for the Witness Steel models, if anyone has had some success then please share.
The TT-33 Romanian as is present for relatively cheap sale on the market, is made by those old fashion sturdy steel steel that made the communist production of small arms quite impressive. While there are folks on the forumns saying that the TT-33 will stand up to almost nuclear strength loads of the 9x23, again it is only talk. There isn't any video or proof as far as I can find.
Ideally the TT-33 9x23 would offer loads in 120+ grain that would be on par with all loads fired from a .357 Magnum with a 4" barrell lenght. If you go to brassfetcher though you will find that the deepest penetration is only 11.5 inches which does not meet the FBI standard 12 inch test. The ammunition is also rare and essentially expensive in compare to its .357 counterpart, but you do get that 8+1 capacity.
But there is the 10mm, far more tested for the mainstream consumption by the public. The 10mm is probably more notable in the Glock 20 where doubletap loads have been used with quite a great deal of success without damaging the gun. All guns wear out after a time but the 10mm in Glock or say Dan Wesson seem to be getting quite the lifespan using loads in the 1200fps-1400fps. The TT-33 would be a newcomer if used with 9x23Win and thus maybe not the best alternative but running the math it could be done for around $400 and you would still have the 7.62x25 caliber at your utility, and if you ordered the extra 9mm barrel you didn't convert you'd have the 9mm caliber available.
I'm not a fan of the 9mm and sold my only one to cousin when she got her CCW permit, but I have a ton of 9mm brass sitting in containers waiting to be reloaded, so maybe the TT-33 might make a nice 9mm shooter but I don't think it will stand up to the measure of the 10mm Glock 20 well enough not to make that extra two hundred dollar investment.
Again though maybe I'm wrong and there are folks who love the 9x23Win caliber and are enjoying it immensely, if you please share.