1911tuner I have a question

[megatronrules]

I had my springfield WWII milspec out at the range and I noticed that out of the fifty rounds I fired one of the empty caseings was being held by the extractor. Now I switched the factory recoil spring which seemed a bit wimmpy to a wollf 16# spring,and it did it one more time. I realized I was letting my wrist move slightly with the shot were the caseing got stuck on the wollf spring,I stiffened my grip and this did not occur for the rest of the range sesion would you say this was an extractor tention issue or a limwristing issue? Also a friend who was with my that day also shot my 1911 and didn't have this happen with either recoil spring FWIW. Thanks for any help with this issue tuner.

 

[stans]

Hi, I'm not Tuner, but I have a few days of experience. Since you noticed that the ejection jam only occured when you held the gun loosely, I would say it is likely a limp wristing problem. I do think you should examine the extractor closely, make sure there are no burs and that the tension is correct. It could be a case of a slightly out of tune extractor, not so bad that it causes problems with a rock solid grip, but if the gun moves a little bit in the hand it is just enough to show a slight problem.

 

[1911Tuner]

re:

Dang stans! And I was already up...

Stans likely nailed it on the hittin' place. Springfield's extractors have
been pretty bad of late. They won't hold tension...and a call or mail-in to the warranty station will probably net another one just like the other one. Order a Brown Hardcore and be done with it.

One question...

Was the round that hung up on the extractor the last round in the magazine? If it was...that'll pretty much cinch it as the extractor tension
bein' the bug in the soup.

Luck!

Tuner

 

[megatronrules]

Hi 191tuner and thanks for replying to answer your question no it wasen't the last round in the magazine that this happened on. I'll order an ed brown extractor are these pretty easy to tention? thanks

 

[1911Tuner]

re:

Okay...Not the last round points to a short cycle malfunction
instead of the extractor. Does the slide cycle smoothly? Although
the gun should function with a loose grip, some don't until they've
loosened up a bit. Get a good grip on it and see how it does. Might
need to drop the recoil spring down to 14 pounds...

Extractor tension is set by putting a little bend in the stem until it
will hold a live round against the breechface tightly enough that it will sag
but not fall off when shaken up and down a time or two. Kinda in a rush for time, so if you get a new extractor, get back and I'll post the wole
routine.

Luck!

Tuner

 

[Dave Sample]

I do not think it's the 1911. These type of handguns need a firm grip so that they can function. It is true that many 1911's are immune to the Limp Wrist Malfunction, this has been proven many times, but I think that is this case that applies. Keep us posted.

 

[megatronrules]

Thanks dave for your reply like I said when I hold the gun really stiff it dosen't do it at all,so maybe it needs some more rounds thought it as it only has about 400 rounds trough it but like you said maybe its me and not the gun. As a side note none of my olders GI guns that are lose ever do this and this particular WWII milspec was fitted very tightly when I first got it. Thats being said its smoothed up ALOT since then thanks for shooting it and hand cycling.

 

[Dave Sample]

You are right on track with this 1911. I think it will improve as you shoot it in. It should be accurate and reliable after 1000 rounds or more.