Bcwitt
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The OPs question specified " Human adversaries" who exactly is that?
Bad guys, ie, people shooting at me. Its an unlikely scenario, but not an impossible scenario.The OPs question specified " Human adversaries" who exactly is that?
Right. Not impossible. Do not assume they are not well equiped.Bad guys, ie, people shooting at me. Its an unlikely scenario, but not an impossible scenario.
Depends largely on what type of armor. Russian infantry armor cannot take 762x51.Against rifle rate body armor neither 7.62 Nato, x39, or 5.56 is really going to make a difference. None are going to penetrate.
There are multiple scenarios where a US citizen could possibly need to defend themselves at extended distances. Especially if someone owns decent amounts of property.
I don't know what the OP is planning, and I regret contributing to this fanboy conversation. I wonder if a DA would look at posts to show intent. And the rest of us for aiding and abetting.
I am not planning anything, and don't see there was a need for the accusation. I was asking about the terminal ballistics of 2 cartridges specifically at shorter ranges than are generally discussed for rifle cartridges. If this is an inappropriate topic, I am happy for a moderator to delete the thread. I wasn't trying to cause a ruckus.I don't know what the OP is planning, and I regret contributing to this fanboy conversation. I wonder if a DA would look at posts to show intent. And the rest of us for aiding and abetting.
I didn't really think you were but the though occurred to me that we don't know who we are helping and what they plan. I thought that point should be raised. Also I think your trolling because you and the fanboys clearly think the cartridges are equivalent. I suppose for your discussion the differences are minimized. The problem with imaginary scenarios, real life can be more complicated and have nasty surprises.I am not planning anything, and don't see there was a need for the accusation. I was asking about the terminal ballistics of 2 cartridges specifically at shorter ranges than are generally discussed for rifle cartridges. If this is an inappropriate topic, I am happy for a moderator to delete the thread. I wasn't trying to cause a ruckus.
I hadn't noticed but thanks for the info.Ballot has been on this forum for a long time. He posts discussion provoking hypotheticals pretty often. With the adoption/testing of the XM7 currently, discussions of the battle rifle vs the assault rifle are happening all over the internet.
I don’t think they are equivalent. My question is at what point does the difference become significant.I didn't really think you were but the though occurred to me that we don't know who we are helping and what they plan. I thought that point should be raised. Also I think your trolling because you and the fanboys clearly think the cartridges are equivalent. I suppose for your discussion the differences are minimized. The problem with imaginary scenarios, real life can be more complicated and have nasty surprises.
I am not planning anything, and don't see there was a need for the accusation. I was asking about the terminal ballistics of 2 cartridges specifically at shorter ranges than are generally discussed for rifle cartridges. If this is an inappropriate topic, I am happy for a moderator to delete the thread. I wasn't trying to cause a ruckus.
Depends largely on what type of armor. Russian infantry armor cannot take 762x51.
That’s not entirely true. Russian military contractors make composite armor now. Cardboard glued to pot metal. That way it is heavy enough. Contractors are paid by the pound and cardboard is too light to scam the defense ministry that much! Plus, when you’re outfitting a chain smoking, tuberculosis-ridden, serial arsonist fresh out of a prison, you don’t want him to be too mobile.Well, cardboard is notorious for not stopping bullets