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Wow Gloob, that hasn't been my experience at all. With 125 gr LRN, I use 4.7 gr of Unique and consider it easily as strong as most cheap factory ammo, probably stronger. Hell, I've shot 3.3 gr with MBC's new 9mm LSWC and it reliably cycled every 9mm I tried it in. Are we talking about the same powder here?
 
Wow Gloob, that hasn't been my experience at all. With 125 gr LRN, I use 4.7 gr of Unique and consider it easily as strong as most cheap factory ammo, probably stronger. Hell, I've shot 3.3 gr with MBC's new 9mm LSWC and it reliably cycled every 9mm I tried it in. Are we talking about the same powder here?

4.7gr is actually what I've loaded for some 125gr LRN's as well, with no issues. Lyman's manual lists 5.0gr as a max for that bullet so I'm in the clear there, but Speer's manual actually list a max charge of 4.6gr for that bullet.
 
Wow Gloob, that hasn't been my experience at all. With 125 gr LRN, I use 4.7 gr of Unique and consider it easily as strong as most cheap factory ammo, probably stronger. Hell, I've shot 3.3 gr with MBC's new 9mm LSWC and it reliably cycled every 9mm I tried it in. Are we talking about the same powder here?
Again, what is the OAL you guys are loading to? You can add lots of pressure just by varying the OAL a little one way or the other. Ten thousandths difference in OAL can make one guy's powder puff load into another guy's factory equivalent.
 
4.7gr is actually what I've loaded for some 125gr LRN's as well, with no issues. Lyman's manual lists 5.0gr as a max for that bullet so I'm in the clear there, but Speer's manual actually list a max charge of 4.6gr for that bullet.
I'm curious what Speer's manual lists as a max load for a jacketed 124/5 gr bullet? Maybe this is a wakeup call for me, because I actually started at 5.05 gr. :)

I started with the longest OAL that barely covered the lube ring (MBC Small Ball). Don't recall the exact length, but it was shorter than 1.169". But I've since shortened them to around 1.075" to fit in my friends' guns, as well. They still feel very light.

I guess it's all relative. I shoot a lot of 40SW and .357 magnum, and the 9mm always feels like a can of Pringles. Once I pop, I can't stop. :) But these definitely feel a lot lighter than my max jacketed loads. They certainly never felt like a beyond-max load. The cases eject softly. No pressure signs, obviously - not that they mean anything in this caliber.

consider it easily as strong as most cheap factory ammo
That's another thing. I consider most cheap domestic 9mm luger ammo to be very weak.

Sounds like I'm loading them hotter than most. Maybe that's why I find Unique to burn so clean. I shoot a lot of these loads at an indoor range, and do a lot of rapidfire, and there's very little smoke or residue. I'm well into my second box of 500, by now, and this is my favorite load with this bullet after trying 3 others. This pistol gets probably 3 or 4 times as many bullets through it as any of my others, since it's my only 9mm.
 
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6.2 grains is the absolute max on any data I've ever seen for Unique. My Speer manual shows a red line load of 5.8 grns under the Gold Dot bullet. My normal load is 5.2 grns with a Berry's 115 bullet. Keep things lower and safe.
 
Mr 45lcrevolver -

We have what's known as a "starting load" and it's called that for a reason. When you start loading a cartridge with a new powder or a new bullet, then that's where you begin. From there you work your way up in small increments, testing the accuracy and watching for pressure signs.

You need to follow this course because you'll hardly ever get the same bullet speed results as the reloading manual. If you are not getting the same bullet speeds, then you are not getting the same chamber pressure either. Starting your reloading at the top is like joining the circus and starting out on your first day walking the high wire. Yikes !
 
I'm curious what Speer's manual lists as a max load for a jacketed 124/5 gr bullet? Maybe this is a wakeup call for me, because I actually started at 5.05 gr.

Actually, I was mistaken. I was quoting from memory - upon checking the load for the cast bullet it's actually 4.5grn :).

Max load of Unique they list for a 124grn jacketed is 5.8grn.

This is out of the No 13 Speer manual. #14 is out now so it's one revision out of date, but the data should still be good.
 
6.2grThat is really hot IMO. I have loaded 5.0-5.2gr under the 125gr GDHP and XTP for around 1070fps and never more than 5.8gr for around 1270fps. I usually start seeing primer cratering and flow around 5.7-5.8gr. I don't think 6.2 would be a good idea even if they do say it is ok.:scrutiny:

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Actually, I was mistaken. I was quoting from memory - upon checking the load for the cast bullet it's actually 4.5grn .
Well I'm a little surprised by this. I usually mix a 124 gr plated over 5.4gr UN in with a mag of 125 gr Small Ball cast over 5.05gr UN loads, and I can't tell the difference in recoil, report, or shot placement. Brass doesn't go too far. I even had this cast load stovepipe on me, once.

I may have had a weak lot of Unique, though. I did notice my last outing with my 45 using a new can, I was getting a louder bark than usual. I'll have to watch what happens with my latest batch of luger loads.
 
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I use about 4.8-5.0gr Unique for my 9mm 124gr fmj.

The cases drop pretty close to me (or weakly flip up into my face...silly Glock). I don't find that a problem, so long as the pistol cycles fine. In fact I've found it easier to find my brass this way.

When i bump up to 5.5gr, cases got flipped further and the round feels more stout for sure.

One thing that's sort of convenient is that a 5.5gr charge will cycle my 1911 as well as my Glock 19. So if I wanted to, I could just keep my powder set at that amount. However, for plinking I don't mind saving the powder to make more loads by turning things down for my 9mm. Easier on the pistol components too (in my mind, at least).

Start low and work up to what you like/what your pistol likes. Go directly to powder manufacturer's websites for load info.
 
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