A pellet pistol for practice inside during winter.

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Another nifty item for .22 are these rounds from South Africa, they are quieter than a standard Colibri but have the power due to design of a CCI Long CB. Armscore no longer carries them but gunbroker has a couple of dealers in them. They are called Diablos and are super accurate. I have like 20 packs and can sell a few I guess. They are 13 gr pellets and are also sub sonic for you suppressor users. They honestly sound like a zippo lighter opening out of a rifle or pistol. ZERO flash and just a wisp of smoke.
 

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Well for now I have a Crosman PC77 aka 1377. I picked it up at my local walmart, they wanted to see my drivers license but didn't ask for a permit to purchase or to see my cpl. I *hate* to ask the cops for legal advice on this so I'll toss this out the leo's on the board, do I need to stop by the sheriffs office to let them put it in their database?

Of course as soon as I got it home, I wanted to upgrade it since the sights are cheesy. I have a steel breach and the williams rear sight on order.

I haven't tried it for accuracy yet. I was in a head on collision 10 days ago and I'm pretty sore though my chest. Seat belts and air bags are worth the money. I really don't want to pump this thing up too many times to shoot a group.

Trigger needs work but it good enough for now.

I'm going to explore some of the other suggestions also in the near future.

Clutch
 
I wouldn't like a gun that has screws, levers and giant wood grips. I'd rather have something that looks like a combat gun, but without the orange, crappy barrel ends. I'd also want a rifled barrel that takes pellets and maybe a gas cartridge. Any suggestions?

I've been looking at this $200 Beretta pellet pistol that seems to fit the bill. Anyone seen one, fired one?

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I have a couple of ideas that I didn't see on the posts.

The first costs a penny and it is how I practice with my XD. Put a penny on the front sight, barrel, or wherever and dry fire. Work your way up to quarters and if you want a real challenge try a beer bottle cap. Balance the object while you dry fire.

If you have a .45 acp, get a bunch of no.2 pencils with rubber erasers and sharpen them. Place a target on the wall an stick a small target on it (or put a dot with a marker). Stand so the barrel is a foot or two away from the target and cock the gun, then put the pencil in the barrel pointy side out. The hammer on a .45 is strong enough to "shoot" the pencil at the target and this is excellent for "target practice."

For tactical practice, the wife and I use nerf pistols. Also fun is trying to catch the nerf darts while being shot :D They are great stress relief when the spouse gets on your nerves as well, specially if she's carrying a beer and unsuspecting, hahahahaha.

I've also heard of using lasers for trigger control, either bore sight types that are designed for this kind of thing (they have a rubber stopper and light up for a moment when the firing pin strikes them) or regular laser attachments.

If you really want a pellet pistol, you should be able to get a decent CO2 pistol for under 100 bucks. Get some darts or bolts for it and a dartboard. Excellent target practice and fun too.

Hope this helps.
 
Speer Plastic Ammo

If you shoot a .357, .38, .44, or .45, then Speer Plastic Training Ammo is a nice alternative for cheap, (relatively) quiet indoor practice. They're powered by a standard Large Pistol primer, and the plastic cases and bullets can be used over and over again in your regular gun, as long as you use a soft backstop to catch them. I use a cardboard box stuffed with old foam pillows as a target backstop.
http://www.speer-bullets.com/products/components/plastic_training_bullets.aspx
 
Crosman Custom Shop

Check out the crosman custom shop on www.crosman.com. You can order a CO2 single shot target pistol configured to your specifications for about $150. Caliber choices are 177 or 22. Barrel lengths from 7.5" to 14". Good sight options, etc.
 
Well I made some progress with this. I bought the 1377 (pc77), ordered the steel breach which Crosman shipped adult sig required which caused the UPS guy to fail to deliver.

I left him a signed note this morning and he left it for me. Basically, I gave him a CYA chit.

Pyramid shipped the williams rear sight today so hopefully I'll be good to go soon.

I'm recovering from a head on collision on a bad winter road atm so I'm not quite up to practicing my pistol work yet but I'm getting better quickly.

I love this forum!

Clutch
 
GCBurner said:
If you shoot a .357, .38, .44, or .45, then Speer Plastic Training Ammo is a nice alternative for cheap, (relatively) quiet indoor practice. They're powered by a standard Large Pistol primer, and the plastic cases and bullets can be used over and over again in your regular gun, as long as you use a soft backstop to catch them. I use a cardboard box stuffed with old foam pillows as a target backstop.
http://www.speer-bullets.com/products/components/plastic_training_bullets.aspx
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I've shot that back in the day out in the garage but with the current price of primers, well, I'm going to pass on it for now. I do have a lathe and some delrin stock, It is tempting to roll some .40 sw plastic bullets just to try out for fun, even though primers are pricey.

Clutch
 
I mounted the steel breech that gives me a dovetail to mount a rear sight on yesterday and fedex dropped off a Williams sight from Pyramid Air.

I'm getting the pellet trap out tomorrow and setting up a range using the hallway. Not the best in air pistols but I got something workable for now so I can improve during snow time instead of lose skill.

I'd love one of those IZH-46M pistols and if my winter practice warrants moving up, I'll get one in the spring when I'm heading down state to a dealer that carries it. Michigan has weird air gun laws.

Thanks everyone for your input on this thread,

Clutch
 
The 1377 is a great inexpensive all around pellet pistol. It is plenty accurate and velocity adjustable. The only thing about the new ones is the trigger/sear spring is really heavy compared to old ones.

I happened to have a lighter spring from a tired 20 year old Crosman Backpacker that I put in my 1377. There are some trigger tuning tips on the net, but the easiest thing is just a lighter spring. Google 1377 trigger tuning
 
I am a little late on this but I would say to look at the umarex made co2 pellet pistols that are licenced copies of the real deal. I own a walther P88 copy that is metal and is plenty accurate for practice. It will easily put 8 rounds rapid fire into a 2 inch circle at 30 feet. shots can be made at 25 yards and still be kept in my small trap.
It is really a 8 shot revolver that looks like a semi.complete with double action ( no slide movement so no single action).

There is also very little recoil so this does not help, I also have the ppk/s BB pistol and I like the blowback action but it is much more of a toy. Umarex has 1911's, M92 berettas, S&W revolvers and walther P99 and P88's

My CP88 has been great for getting my grip and sight picture better. You will see differences in point of impact as you run out of CO2 but for the first 40or 50 shots if you missed ... it ain't the gun.
 
clutch said:
I've shot that back in the day out in the garage but with the current price of primers, well, I'm going to pass on it for now. I do have a lathe and some delrin stock, It is tempting to roll some .40 sw plastic bullets just to try out for fun, even though primers are pricey.

Clutch
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At current prices, it's about 3 cents a shot. Pricier that BBs, but less than regular ammo. The main benefit of the plastic ammo is that you use it in your regular handgun, so the trigger and sights are what you are already familiar with.
 
I don't think anyone has mentioned it yet, but if someone has then I'm sorry for the repetition. Anyway, if anyone is hung up on the lead pellet indoors thing, then they might want to check out some of the lead-free pellets now being offered. I don't have any experience with them myself, but I think they might come in handy for short range indoor practice. You can find them at pyramidair (and probably other places). Pyramidair has reviews of them as well, and while it seems they aren't as good as lead, they might be an option.
 
My employer has a profit sharing scheme. Didn't pay off like the autoworkers but there was enough to pre-order a IZH-46M from Pyramyd. I suspect the American Rifleman magazine piece helped improve sales recently.

Thanks for the tip on the IZH-46M. I should get it sometime in March.

Clutch
 
I think it's a great idea. I have both a pellet gun and a bb pistol I use in the house all winter. I can sit (or stand) at my computer chair and shoot down the hallway, it's about 50' to my bedroom, where I have a homemade bb trap made out of very light tin set up. Not only is it fun but I think it's very practical.
 
BigN,

I envy your additional range inside your home. I'm going to have to do some remodeling to get the full 10M from my computer desk in the living room.

Shooting air pistols down the hall beats, dry firing at the TV or that reduced target hanging on the far wall near my desk.

Clutch
 
Well this is going great. Pyramydair didn't have electricity in Cleveland, OH today at the same time my FFL transfer guy was trying to fax over a copy of his FFL. :cuss: This is Michigan where buying a rifled air pistol is harder than buying a handgun.

By the time I get this thing, winter will be over and I'll be shooting centerfire outside again. :)

Clutch
 
Well It finally showed up

After a long wait, my IZH-46M showed up. Pyramyd Air called my to see if I'd be willing to accept it with walnut grips instead of beech. Hey no problem, send it out.

On the day it was supposed to be delivered to my FFL (this is Michigan), I left work w/o seeing a delivery at my dealer. I had the tracking number and he is out in the sticks.

Well, I head north of home to do some shopping and on the way back home I get a call that it was just delivered. My air pistol is 50 miles south of me now on a Friday night. What would you do? Heck yes, I asked him if I could come and get it right now. So I head right back south past where I work 30+ miles plus the extra miles to his place. Gas is cheap enough if you get 36 MPG ;)

Pistol was delivered undamaged, we did the paperwork. I have to register it in Michigan and it has to have a signed form indicating it was handed over to me with a locking device. Such insanity. He gave me one. After finishing the transaction I gifted him one.

Shooting it. Well, that trigger you just about breath on it and off it goes. You think, it goes bang. Learning to shoot one handed is going to be a struggle but I'm up for it.

Right off the bat, I lost one of the trapezoidal air seals which from checking the web seems to be a common issue for newbies like me. Lucky for me there was a spares kit included. I'm going to buy a few more just to be safe.

When it gets warm outside I'm going to bench rest it since at my current skill level I can't really give an accuracy report.

I am not disappointed by my purchase in any way.

Clutch
 
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