Anyone own a Sigma AND an M&P?

[okey0]

I currently own a Sigma 40, purchased in 1994 or 1995 (whenever they first came out). It is an OK pistol, though it will not shoot lead-only FMJ. It is an accurate gun, fits my hand well and is easy to line up the sights. The only thing I really dislike (other than jams with lead) is the trigger. I am interested in getting the M&P compact 9. I was wondering if anyone else who has owned a Sigma has purchased an M&P, and if it is a major improvement over the Sigma.
I also own a XD40 (with 9mm conversion barrel) and a Taurus Mil-Pro 140, which is my concealed carry pistol.
I would probably trade in the Sigma or the Taurus in order to get the M&P.

 

[dralarms]

I'd buy one, I have the M&P9C and the M&P40C and love them both. There is a great improvment over the Sigma.

 

[deanodog]

I have bought the mp9 and the mp9c since I bought the sigma and the trigger is better but I would not get rid of my sigma. They are the best bargain going in my opinion. Their trigger makes us better shooters for less money. They make an excellent truck gun or a beater that you can stand it if they get beat up and they are a good reliable gun to have around.

 

[jahwarrior]

i own the 9ve, and had a chance to shoot the M&P 9mm compact last month. it is an improvement over the sigma, but i would hold onto mine if i were you. you can never have too many guns.

 

[SouthpawShootr]

You're going to take a beating if you trade that Sigma. If it's one of the Sigma F guns (first generation), open up a fresh can of whup ass, as the saying goes. I don't think you'll get more than $150 on this gun even in top condition. A Taurus PT140 will get you about the same (figure about half the best price you can find for a new one). I have a Sigma 357V and 9VE. Had no desire to get a .40. I think rather highly of the gun, but they're not worth much. I have an M&P service size 9mm. Nice. Alot nicer than the 9VE I have. But I'd have to admit that they both pretty much do the same job and do it well. Never liked the XDs, btw. I've had 2 of them and they just don't do it for me for some reason.

 

[MPanova]

SouthpawShootr Please point me in the direction of the PT140's going for 150 bucks used in any condition

 

[FieroCDSP]

My first handgun was a Sigma 40. It's a third (or fourth?) generation with all of the fixes. It'll shoot anything you feed it, but it started to choke on laquered Wolf after 120 rounds as the laquer started to flake off and melt, causing stuck cases. The biggest complaint I have about it is the grip. It's hard plastic checkered, and offers a slippery grip. If you were to stipple it somehow with a softer compound, it would grip just fine.

I bumped up to the M&P 40 four months later because the chamber was fully supported (for reloads), the ergos and grip were a lot better, and there is less felt recoil with the M&P. My Sigma is a safe queen now. My M&P has been flawless with the factory ammo I've shot through it, but has choked on flat point handloads that were towards the longer lengths. I shortened the lengths a bit and they feed perfectly.

If it's a choice on the two, go with the M&P for the slightly more cash. You won't regret it. If you need cheap protection for daily carry, the Sigma can do the job, but the M&P is better.

 

[SouthpawShootr]

SouthpawShootr Please point me in the direction of the PT140's going for 150 bucks used in any condition

I didn't say they're going for that. I said, if you read my post, that a dealer would give about half the lowest price of a new one. I see them frequently at gunshows and local shops for $300-325 NIB.

 

[Glockafella]

almost any new polymer gun from a major manufacure will make u hate that sigma IMHO


Not that the sigma is a bad gun...just not up to par

 

[MPanova]

Ok I guess I read that to quick and got excited at the thought of getting a bunch of them at that price

 

[hotwheelz]

I had the sigma .40 and it felt like a tunning fork after everyshot couldnt get rid of it fast enough. I have had the M&P .40 and after about 2500rounds Im still loving it.

 

[SouthpawShootr]

had the sigma .40 and it felt like a tunning fork after everyshot

I'm usually pretty good with analogies, but I must admit I'm at a loss with this one. You want to try putting that a different way? Perhaps it's the fact that I don't have a .40 Sigma (9VE & 357V).

 

[nwilliams]

I would never compare the Sigma to the M&P to me they are two completely different guns, only the manufacturer is the same and the fact they are both DAO poly framed guns. IMO comparing the M&P to the Sigma is comparing apples to oranges. People are quick to judge the M&P because the Sigma has a mix reputation and for those of us who own or have owned both the differences are quite clear.

I owned a Sigma 40VE a few years ago and sold it to a friend who really wanted it. I had no problem parting with it, the trigger was pretty bad and it was picky on ammo. It certainly wasn't the worst gun I have ever owned, but an attachment for it never spawned. Now it should be pointed out that not all Sigmas were bad and some people like them just fine. My friend still has the Sigma I sold him and he still loves it. I can't speak for the 1st gen Sigmas, I've heard those were more problematic.

Earlier this year I picked up an M&P and I couldn't be happier with it. I had to replace the mag release after about 500 rounds but that was thousands of rounds ago and its been problem-free since. It shoots straight, the trigger is great, there is very little muzzle flip, the ergonomics are wonderful. I have no complaints about my M&P.

 

[1911user]

I HAD a sigma 9mm and now have a M&P 9mm. Anyone that wants to force me to switch back had better be well armed AND pack a lunch.........Yeah, the trigger pull difference is that noticable. For the competition circuit, the M&P is a winner and the sigma shouldn't even show up. The ONLY thing a sigma has going for it is a $300 new price tag and decent ergos. Sorry, I wasted too much time with one to be nice when comparing the sigma to anything else except maybe a hi-point or jennings offering.

 

[FieroCDSP]

You want to try putting that a different way?

I believe he was refering to the amount of shock transmitted through the grip into the hand and arm. I noticed it too, which is why I believe putting a soft stipple on the grip might help. The hard plastic offers no sure grip (especially in the 40) and gets slick if you get any lubes on it at all. Had Smith rubberized the grip, I think it would have done a lot better. Maybe not great, but better. It does seem to transmit a lot of the shot through the arm.

 

[hotwheelz]

quote "I'm usually pretty good with analogies, but I must admit I'm at a loss with this one. You want to try putting that a different way? Perhaps it's the fact that I don't have a .40 Sigma" .

The dang sigma felt like it was viberating horribly in my hand after everyshot. Sorry for the anaologie made sence to me but then well that says it all I guess.