Arrest near LA "nearly 900 guns" in house..(with anti bias)

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(And note that the homeowner wasn't suspected of any shooting, it's that someone he "associated with" is accused of shooting someone, maybe, and might or might not have gotten the gun from him, possibly, maybe, they believe. Circumstantial excuses, anyone?)

LA Times

Upland Home Hid Cache of Guns
Nearly 900 weapons are discovered when police, seeking firearms used in shootings, raid home of a retired Army officer.
By Lance Pugmire, Times Staff Writer
April 19, 2006

Authorities announced Tuesday that they discovered nearly 900 firearms hidden in secret panels, under floors and behind walls in an upscale home in the foothills of Upland.

A team of federal, state and local police raided the house Friday as part of an investigation into a man accused of wounding his wife and a Glendora police officer during shooting incidents in February and last month.

Inside the home, authorities found assault weapons, submachine guns, automatic rifles, explosive devices and other weapons, said Shirley Lesslak, a Department of Justice special agent supervisor.

A wine cellar had been converted into a makeshift weapons storage area and shooting range, Lesslak said.

Authorities arrested the homeowner, Robert Ferro, 61, a retired Army Special Forces officer, accusing him of running a huge black-market gun business out of the home at the end of cul-de-sac.

The San Bernardino County district attorney filed eight felony counts against Ferro on Monday, including possession of a firearm by a felon, possession of a destructive device, possession of a silencer and possession of a deadly weapon.

In the early 1990s, Ferro made headlines after he was accused of running a paramilitary camp on a Pomona chicken ranch that was dedicated to the overthrow of Cuban leader Fidel Castro. At the ranch, authorities found 5 pounds of C-4, a putty-like explosive. He was convicted of possession of illegal explosives in 1992 and sentenced to two years in prison.

Detectives said they were stunned when they entered Ferro's house and came across the wide array of guns.

"We went there looking for two guns," said Det. Joe Rodriguez of the Glendora Police Department. "We didn't expect to find more than 800. It was quite out of anyone's grasp. We are still trying to comprehend it."

Rodriguez said he and his colleagues uncovered weapons wherever they looked — behind framed paintings, thermometers and mirrors, inside hollowed-out walls of closets and under the staircase.

Detectives gave two taps to a bookcase and it opened up to reveal more weapons, Rodriguez said.

They said they found some of the most powerful firearms — Uzis and AK-47s — in the master bathroom and bedroom, behind clothing and plywood.

"The majority of the guns had fully loaded magazines," Rodriguez said, adding that the makeshift shooting range in the basement appeared to have been used recently.

Authorities believe those who used the range attached silencers to their weapons to avoid tipping off neighbors.

Residents on Tapia Way described Ferro as a friendly neighbor who had several children and who had lived on the street at least 16 years. They said they had no idea that hundreds of guns were hidden throughout his house.

"He seemed to be a normal family man," said Douglas Null, a neighbor about four houses away. "Nothing ever goes on around here. It's very surprising."

Neighbor Bill Applebee, 69, said Ferro helped him fix a plumbing problem at his home and that Ferro's wife routinely drives their son and Applebee's granddaughter to Upland High School.

Ferro's large white stucco home has a U.S. flag hanging from its eaves and seven cars, including a Rolls-Royce, parked outside, one with an Army Special Forces license plate frame. Applebee said Ferro told him he had served in Vietnam.

In the early 1990s, Ferro, a Cuban immigrant, became something of a cause célèbre after his arrest. Prosecutors accused him of using the explosives to train Mexicans to overthrow Castro. His attorney denied that Ferro did anything wrong and said his client was a patriot with a distinguished military career, including volunteering for Operation Skyhook, a private effort to rescue missing servicemen believed held in Vietnam.

Neither Ferro, who was being held at San Bernardino County Jail on $5-million bail, nor his attorney could be reached for comment Tuesday.

Will Telish, an assistant special agent with the Department of Justice's Bureau of Narcotic Enforcement, said authorities believed Ferro sold the guns, other weapons and equipment at local swap meets and at an "appointment-only" antiques shop he owns in Upland.

"Lots of these [purchases] were done by word of mouth on the street, like how narcotics are trafficked," Telish said.

"You sell them on the black market — like selling purses out a trunk," Rodriguez said.

Authorities began investigating Ferro because of his association with Frank Fidel Beltran, who was arrested on suspicion of shooting a police officer who was responding to a domestic disturbance at Beltran's Glendora home Feb. 10. The officer suffered a wound to the hand.

Beltran, who evaded capture for nearly a month, also is accused of shooting his wife eight times a few weeks later. That shooting occurred on a San Dimas street, where he apparently had been following her car.

"She noticed him and tried to get away," Los Angeles County sheriff's spokesman Sgt. David Vega said. "He chased her down after she crashed into a curb and started blasting her."

Beltran fired 20 shots and fled, police say. His wife remains hospitalized.

Beltran, 36, was arrested a few days later at a home in Rancho Cucamonga owned by Ferro. It is unclear why Beltran was at the home. Authorities believe Ferro provided Beltran with his weapons, Telish said.

Telish said authorities were conducting tests to establish whether any of the guns at the Ferro home matched those used in the shootings Beltran is accused of.

Times staff writer David Pierson contributed to this report.
 
DocZinn,
Ferro is a convicted felon and as such is prevented from owning any guns.

Now thats what he did that was illegal. As far as wrong...I dunno
 
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I agree that he was felon and was barred by law from owning a gun. However I do not think that he deserved his felon status. Gee.... helping to overthrow tyranny is a crime now a days? Isnt that what George W. Bush is doing? Didn't someone esle do the same thing 230 years ago?

But seriously, good for him and not fearing The Man. He was a veteran, a retired SF officer, and a national hero. Its wonderful that in their sick anti-gun view of the world they would strip a man of his freedom, whem this same man had taken up arms to defend out country and our freedoms? How sickening.
 
Thats a very impressive collection. I would like few things more than the guns in that picture. The only thing missing is some Tommy guns. Just think, Dick Cheneys collection is far bigger, and unlike with this Retired Army Officer, legal for no reason other than his wealth. It infuriates me that he has done nothing to help repeal 922 (o).
 
I think when you use a broad description to outline who cant own guns, your going to catch alot of unintended people with it.

A kid goes for depression treatment, grows up to be a healthy adult, gets blocked from owning weaposn due to "mental illness".
A teenager has a slightly younger girlfriend, gets in a spat with her parents, ends up a sex offender and also barred from ownership.
Civil rights protestors and minor offenders of all kinds have been caught with the "felon" tag. All left with a massive expense just clear their records so they can take part in something outlined by the constitution.

What this incident goes to show that despite these inconvieniences and expenses for you and me, it was compleatly ineffective at stopping a determined "felon" from arming up to an extreme and providing weapons to anyone else that wants them.
 
I see a few weapons there that are not allowed in California unless they are registered. Assault weapon type stuff...you know, the guns designed to kill babies and cops.
 
"He seemed to be a normal family man," said Douglas Null, a neighbor about four houses away. "Nothing ever goes on around here. It's very surprising."

I love these quotes that appear in every anti-article. "Oh, he seemed like a normal guy," but as soon as it's discovered he likes guns or owns guns he turns into the devil incarnate. :barf:

Geez, is it so incomprehendable that a normal family man (or woman) might like firearms, and own a few or hundreds of them?

The future's gonna be: You like guns=you're abnormal. :rolleyes:
 
Forget the "wrong" for a moment. That's not necessary.

Think "Terminal stoopid". I wouldn't illegally acquire, possess and then sell a weapon to somebody who could roll over on me and send the law to my door. My opinion of the wrongness of the law doesn't matter, when it comes to staying out of the Graybar Hotel.

This guy's history doesn't show much signs of common sense, either. Getting involved in a conspiracy against Castro? Duh? Anybody think that anti-Castro folks aren't monitored by the feds? Generally, already known to the feds?

Our laws say thou shalt not try to mess over some foreign head of a country. Okay, so you say Castro's a bad guy. Can you guarantee his successor won't be worse? Princip did his thing at Sarajevo and we got WW I. That was good? You can find unintended consequences all over the place.

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This guy's history doesn't show much signs of common sense, either. Getting involved in a conspiracy against Castro? Duh? Anybody think that anti-Castro folks aren't monitored by the feds? Generally, already known to the feds?

I thought that the anti-Castro folks were the government.
 
1911JMB said:
Dick Cheneys collection is far bigger, and unlike with this Retired Army Officer, legal for no reason other than his wealth.
Exactly how does Cheney's wealth affect the legal status of his gun ownership rights?

/j
 
The only people allowed to train paramilitary folks for the overthrow of Cuba would be the US Government. Of course, they were also planning on staging terrorist attacks on US soil and soldiers/civilians to drum up support for the overthrow.

Don't believe me? Operation Northwoods
 
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