Bdickens, most everything you've stated in my regards is completely nonsensical. Now let me address a few things.
quote by bdickens...."Well whoop de do. Means nothing."
Well actually it does considering you implied I had no experience. I have a lifetime of experience with firearms. I have also participated in numerous firearm injury related studies at some prominent universities, which would include Johns Hopkins. Giving input as a strong 2A supporter and safety conscious gun owner; in part to dispel some of the ignorant portrayals of gun owners. You're not helping.
quote by bdickens...."Um..."
That's not a response. Now show where I have personally stated that a firearm is capable of going off on it's own because I never have. However, I do not rule out the possibility as mechanical parts do fail and then there is manufacturing defects and design flaws. Otherwise, maybe you should look into the various Sig Sauer P320 lawsuits and design change resulting from such.
quote by bdickens...."Precicely. And the video doesn't show what or how. So what's the point? No conclusions can be drawn from it."
You are seemingly choosing to be ignorant. There are quite a number of lessons to be learned from the video which has in fact been used for such. 1) The gun WAS holstered and yet a discharge took place. THAT IS A FACT. So stop propagating the notion that a gun is 100% safe when it is holstered and consequently no other safety measures need to be considered. Such as insuring your firearm isn't pointing at someone! 2) An improper holster can cause the trigger to be exposed resulting in a potential discharge. 3) Something could get into your holster and cause a discharge. 4) In addition. There are instances when you should remove your holster prior to re-holstering your firearm. If the gentleman in that video had done so, it's possible he could have avoided the accidental discharge.
quote by bdickens...."So what? Why should stupid people acting unsafely affect the behavior of smart people acting safely....?"
Because we are all smart people until we do something really stupid, now aren't we. I would never allow a firearm to be pointed at my wife or either one of my daughters, no matter if it were holstered, unloaded, or otherwise! Period, end of story. I consider it quite stupid that some people are apparently fully content with having a loaded weapon pointing directly at their loved one's. It's beyond stupidity.
quote by bdickens...."No, I would not. Why? That pistol has been riding securely in it's holster all day and hasn't "gone off" yet, what makes you think it would do so now?"
And what makes you so complacent and selfish that you are willing to gamble with the life of your wife and daughter, that your firearm is not going to go off accidentally? Your mentality would have to say it's also OK to point an unloaded gun directly at them as well. Because it is after all unloaded and thus perfectly safe. I'd never do either!
Now to answer your question directly. The gentleman in the video had a holstered pistol that didn't initially go off. He could have stood there for eternity and it probably would never have gone off. However, when he changed his position the pistol then went off. Your firearm is exposed to different pressures during the day as you go from a sitting position to a standing position, to bending over or twisting around. There are times when something or someone may also press against your firearm. So, I make a habit of checking the status of my firearm especially in those instances to insure it is always properly seated and secondly to insure it is never pointing at anyone. So even if an accidental discharge did ever occur, no harm could come of it.
quote by bdickens..."Fact is, unnecessary administrative handling of the gun is infinitely more likely to lead to a tragedy than is putting it on, covering it up and LEAVING IT ALONE."
Ok, I agree with that statement. However, you are attempting to imply something erroneous with it.
Now to set the record straight in regards to myself. 1) I don't participate in
"unnecessary administrative" handling of firearms and that's really an erroneous statement anyhow. So stop implying things which you are ignorant about. I consider your statement erroneous because I think practicing with a firearm and practicing safe handling with a firearm on a regular basis is a good thing. I realize that's not quite what you are referring to but I wanted to clarify anyhow. 2) Any time I handle a firearm it is always in a completely professional and safe manner because that is who I am. It's the example I set. 3) My carry gun is a Kahr which is arguably the safest striker fired gun made due to it's long revolver-type trigger. It cannot go off without pulling the trigger and pulling it with absolute intent. 4) I use IWB and OWB holsters exclusively which completely covers up my firearms trigger. There is no concern as to the direction it is pointing. I got rid of my pocket carry firearm because I couldn't accept that it indeed pointed on occasion. It was also unnecessary because I am always able to carry a larger and more accurate firearm. 5) My holsters have an adjustable cant which allows me to safely make minor adjustments, when necessary. This is completely safe and what the holster was designed for. It insures complete retention of the firearm even if the holster is purposefully or accidentally manipulated. So stop speaking about things which you have no knowledge of. You are simply attempting to justify yourself. As it stands, I put a lot of time and effort into choosing my ccw gear and I did so with safety as one of the main objectives.
quote by bdickens..."...The difference between me and you is that I apply common sense and critical thinking to the four rules...."
Coming from the man who is OK with having his loaded but holstered gun pointing directly at his wife and/or child! I guarantee you that I have never espoused such nor set that as my example. Otherwise, I abide by all gun rules and I do so in a highly professional manner.
quote by bdickens..."you probably should think twice about lecturing someone on reading comprehension when you don't know the difference between "ensure" and "insure."
You're simply showing yourself to be petty. Otherwise, those two words are synonyms of each other with "insure" meaning
"to make certain especially by taking necessary measures and precautions". I'll admit I usually use "ensure" though.
Ralph