Centerfire Autoloader With Buckmark Like Trigger

[razorback2003]

What is a centerfire auto out there that has a nice crisp trigger like the Browning Buckmark? I have a Glock 19....it is a good handgun...but I do not shoot it as well as the Buckmark because the trigger is not as clean...and I've had a gunsmith work on it for me and put a Glock 34 connecter. I have tried DA/SA handguns (Sig 226 and 229 and Ruger) and the first heavy pull is difficult for me. I like the consistent pull of the Glock for general self defense use...but think that I would do better on the range with a crisper trigger.

I have shot a 1911 45 and I can hit dead center consistently at a target at an indoor range 20-25 yards quite easily. This has been with the less expensive range rental Springfield Armory and Kimbers. I am afraid that 45 ammo will make me broke though! Does the Browning/FN Hi Power have a good trigger similar to my Browning Buckmark? Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks.

 

[jfrey]

First of all, forget the Glock. It ain't gonna happen with that trigger. A finely tuned 1911 is hard to beat in any fashion, but it is still different than a BM. A good gunsmith can polish and lighten the trigger on a HP and get it very close to what you are looking for. The biggest problem I encountered in lightening a HP trigger is reset problems with the sear. It is a fine balance to get the spring tension just right to have a light, crisp trigger and have the sear reset reliably. My BM is polished and adjusted down to about 2 lbs. but a HP trigger that light will probably cause problems, from my experience.

There are however, 3 other options to consider. Sig makes a target model in 9mm. called the P226 X-5 with wooden grips and 5" bbl. that has about the best trigger I ever felt. The downside is they cost about $2700.00 ea. The other options are the S&W 845 and 952-1, if you can find one. Both of these pistols are true Performance models, not rebuilt stock guns. Both pistols have great triggers and are very close to the BM trigger, when adjusted properly. From the ones I have shot, I think the trigger on the 845 is the better of the two but that may just be the pistols I fired. S&W makes a 945 now and a 952-2 model which is stainless, but I haven't actually shot either of those two models.

 

[BCRider]

Many hammer guns can be set up to release like the Buckmark. I think what you're after is the crisp feel of a single action sear and hammer gun. I know the Buckmark doesn't have an external hammer but there is one instead of the striker as found in the Glocks and M&P's and other such guns. It's just internal and hidden by the slide.

 

[railroader]

How about a witness match. It's single action only. They get good reviews on the gun forums.
https://www.rrarms.com/catalog.php?prod=G600660 Mark

 

[1SOW]

CZ 75B SA 9mm. With a little polishing the trigger is really great.

A friend bought one NIB for $375 at a local gunshop.
He smoothed and polished the trigger components, invested $69 for a competition hammer and is winning our local USPSA 'limited' class. Total investment--$444. (He also bought high cap mags that I didn't include in the gun price).

I fired it and the trigger is as good as any high dollar gun I've shot, including .45s---I've tried lots of them.

CZ is coming out with a "Target" model that includes the above + adjustable rear sights.

 

[razorback2003]

A problem I have with some handguns is a thick grip, like that on the Sig 226, 229, and Ruger. I can shoot decent but don't feel like I get a good hold on them. The Glock 17/19 is about as thick as I care for, even the standard Glock 20/21 is too wide in the grip.

I do like how the Hi Power and 1911 are both relatively thin in the grip. I looked at a CZ 75 stainless a while back at it seemed to be fairly thin in the grip for a double stack 9mm...although it has the double action slack at the beginning like the Sig does when pulling the trigger single action. I'm guessing the SA CZ eliminates that problem. I have a CZ 452 22LR Varmit and it is a great rifle. It is hard to find CZ and Browning Hi Powers to try at ranges in the Memphis area.

 

[railroader]

I can second the cz75sa. I have one but they are no longer $375. Mine has the new straight trigger with adjustment for takeup and overtravel. I have competition sights and I did a little trigger work. It shoots great. My gun looks very similar to this pistol. Mine has stock rubber grips and a different competition rear sight. Mark

 

[razorback2003]

That CZ SA looks like it would be a fun range gun and also certain types of competition. I've heard nothing but good about CZ handguns as far as reliability. Do they require a lot of work to stay reliable, like the 1911 9mm's or even some Hi Powers? I know the after market work on the 1911 9mm's often makes an already expensive gun even more expensive. I'll have to say I do plan on keeping my Glock because it serves my purpose of a good solid handgun, great for nightstand, carrying when hiking, and hopefully next month Stock Service Pistol IDPA! I can't wait to try IDPA because it looks like a very addicting sport that will give me an excuse to add to my handgun collection! I don't golf...and my wife actually will go to the gun club with me and shoot a little...so she understands about a different gun for each purpose thankfully.

 

[Jed Carter]

SIG P210, S&W 952, or most good M1911s. All you have to do is throw more than the average money at the problem. I see some have suggested CZ, I love my CZ PCR and have shot some others, few, very few have a trigger to brag on, most are mediocre at best. EAA, copy of CZ, same trigger mechanism, you could spend $1000 plus on a CZ "match, target" and not have half the trigger as you would on an STI Spartan $650. As far as M1911 reliability issues, it has been my experience that most are either magazine related, or reload, self loaded ammunition issues. In USPSA and IDPA Some competitors have down loaded their ammo so it fails to cycle the slide fully.