Colt 1860 Army 6-shot conversion cylinders

[Montenegrin]

So my question is really simple. Do any 6-shot conversion cylinders for 1860 Army exist?
I found plenty of them but they all have 5 chambers. They say it's because rims of .45 Colt would interfere, so did anyone make .44 Colt ones (I know, it's pretty obsolete cartridge)?
Also is there possibility for "Uberti 1871/2 Open-top" cylinders to fit in 1860 Army, and to add firing pin to hammer of gun afterwards?

 

[1KPerDay]

Don't think so. I don't think Kenny Howell even ever made a 6-shot conversion for the 1860, just the Remington.

 

[Prairie Dawg]

Give Hoof Hearted a call.
His WebSite is http://cartridgeconversion.com
Right now he's running a "deal" on 1860 conversion cylinders, installed
His facebook page is:
https://www.facebook.com/Cartridge-Conversion-Revolvers-726097890808536/
--Dawg

 

[Blackpowdershooter44]

Cant you use a 1851 .44 conversion cylinder in it? Not sure if they make them in 6 shot

 

[Crawdad1]

Cant you use a 1851 .44 conversion cylinder in it? Not sure if they make them in 6 shot

What difference would that make? Gary (Hoof Hearted) lists a six shot conversion cylinder for the 1860 Army using the 45 Schofield round.

http://cartridgeconversion.com/Converters.php

Scroll down to the bottom of the page to see that six shot conversion cylinder for the 1860 Army. Its listed under R & D Taylor but if you go to the Taylor's & Company web-site they don't list a six shot conversion cylinder for the 1860 Army. I don't know you have to give him a call.

If you use the 45 Long Colt cartridge in the 1860 Army you have to limit the size of the bullet. I know 250 grain bullets in a 45 Long Colt are too long for the 1860 Army conversion cylinder.

 

[2ndAmendmentNut]

I don't believe it is possible to get 6-shots of 45colt in an 1860 C&B. The cartridge conversions that Uberti sells that are already converted to modern center fire ammunition are scaled up slightly in the cylinder area in order to accomplish 6 rounds of 45colt.

 

[2ndAmendmentNut]

What difference would that make? Gary (Hoof Hearted) lists a six shot conversion cylinder for the 1860 Army using the 45 Schofield round.



http://cartridgeconversion.com/Converters.php



Scroll down to the bottom of the page to see that six shot conversion cylinder for the 1860 Army. Its listed under R & D Taylor but if you go to the Taylor's & Company web-site they don't list a six shot conversion cylinder for the 1860 Army. I don't know you have to give him a call.



If you use the 45 Long Colt cartridge in the 1860 Army you have to limit the size of the bullet. I know 250 grain bullets in a 45 Long Colt are too long for the 1860 Army conversion cylinder.

I am pretty sure that 6-shot 45 schofield cylinder depicted is actually a stock photo of a conversion cylinder for the Walker or Dragoon revolvers. R&Ds own website lists no such thing as a 6-shot 45 for the 1860.

 

[the Black Spot]

They used to make one in 45 acp that was six shot, but that was a few years back.

 

[StrawHat]

ASM made a Richards conversion Model 1860 that was chambered for the 44 Colt. I have two of them. Even with the 44 Colt, you have to be careful because the area between the chamber and the locking notch is very thin. Many originals have that area either cut through or blown out.

Not sure if Uberti is still making the Richards Second Model or the Open Tops in 44 Colt. But, if they are, they are using the slightly larger cylinder they use for the 45 long Colt.

Kevin

 

[Crawdad1]

I am pretty sure that 6-shot 45 schofield cylinder depicted is actually a stock photo of a conversion cylinder for the Walker or Dragoon revolvers. R&Ds own website lists no such thing as a 6-shot 45 for the 1860.

I agree and wasn't sure that the cylinder shown was the real deal. He should call Gary to make sure. But, Gary also offers the 'Thuer' conversion for the '60 Army.

Here is Gary's conversion of a Belgium Centaur 1860 Army,

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=740636&highlight=Hoof+Hearted

 

[Montenegrin]

Thanks on replies. I have similar question. Since modern factory conversions of 1860 have increased frame size in comparison with c&b frame (in order to fit 6 .45 cartridges), is the same true for 1851 factory conversions? In other words, would barrel assembly of 1851 factory conversion fit on percussion 1851? It should, since original percussion frame size is already large enough to accommodate 6 .38 lc/special cartridges, but IDK if they maybe decided to beef up frame size on 1851 factory conversion for another reason. Reason I'm asking this is because it seems much more easy to get .358 barrel than to reline original one in case of converting 1851 Navy. Some dude on TFL claims to have done it.

 

[StrawHat]

Montenegrin,

Since the 1851, 1861 and the 1860 all use the same frame, I am betting on the frames all being beefed up in size. No reason to have two slightly different frames to confuse the workers.

Kevin