Rittmeister
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Wouldn't a heavier bullet, with the same pressure loading, drop the bullet further? I haven't done much ballistic research but that's what seems intuitive.
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All else being equal the heavier 124 gr. bullet will shoot higher and the lighter 115 gr. bullet lower. There will likely be only an inch or two difference at 15 yards in POI though, not that much to worry about.
Fixed sights are set for one or another weight bullet. In the 9 mm either 115 or 124 gr. As the gun fires the muzzle flips upward. Fixed sights are adjusted to accommodate for this upward rise. The heavier rounds have more recoil and more muzzle rise while the 115 gr. load has less recoil and less muzzle rise so if the piece is regulated for 124 gr. than the 115 will shoot a bit lower.
Also I've had a number of guns over the years with white dot sights. It's kinda rare for them to be exactly where they oughta be so I tend to ignore them if trying to shoot precisely. They are there for low light condition and meant to be used at speed in defensive encounters. I usually just paint over them for range use.
Please report on the Rock Island more fully.
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Fixed sights are set for one or another weight bullet. In the 9 mm either 115 or 124 gr. As the gun fires the muzzle flips upward. Fixed sights are adjusted to accommodate for this upward rise. The heavier rounds have more recoil and more muzzle rise while the 115 gr. load has less recoil and less muzzle rise so if the piece is regulated for 124 gr. than the 115 will shoot a bit lower.
Also I've had a number of guns over the years with white dot sights. It's kinda rare for them to be exactly where they oughta be so I tend to ignore them if trying to shoot precisely. They are there for low light condition and meant to be used at speed in defensive encounters. I usually just paint over them for range use.
Please report on the Rock Island more fully.
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Rittmeister
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Interesting...
Well, it's on its way to Ivan at Armscor. I'll be a few days but we'll see what happens.
Well, it's on its way to Ivan at Armscor. I'll be a few days but we'll see what happens.
Rittmeister
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Update:
The pistol arrived at Armscor on Monday, and I got a call today. Ray (not Ivan) tells me he took it to the range, and off a rest he was able to shoot good groups only about 1 inch below the bullseye at 25 yards. He asked me what other shooting I've done, and I told him (as mentioned above) that my other pistols are a 1911 pattern and a Browning Hi-Power. He went on to say that it's possible I need to spend some time getting used to the trigger pull on the new gun.
It's true nearly all the shooting I've ever done before this was with single-action handguns, and while of course this new pistol is double-action I did most of the firing in single action mode. Ray mentioned that the differences in the shape of the trigger, and in the different trigger reset, could cause my issue. He also said that he's been an IPSC competition shooter for nearly 20 years, though I have no reason to doubt what he's telling me.
Anyone want to speak to this? They said they'd send the pistol back to me directly; I guess I just have some practicing to do.
The pistol arrived at Armscor on Monday, and I got a call today. Ray (not Ivan) tells me he took it to the range, and off a rest he was able to shoot good groups only about 1 inch below the bullseye at 25 yards. He asked me what other shooting I've done, and I told him (as mentioned above) that my other pistols are a 1911 pattern and a Browning Hi-Power. He went on to say that it's possible I need to spend some time getting used to the trigger pull on the new gun.
It's true nearly all the shooting I've ever done before this was with single-action handguns, and while of course this new pistol is double-action I did most of the firing in single action mode. Ray mentioned that the differences in the shape of the trigger, and in the different trigger reset, could cause my issue. He also said that he's been an IPSC competition shooter for nearly 20 years, though I have no reason to doubt what he's telling me.
Anyone want to speak to this? They said they'd send the pistol back to me directly; I guess I just have some practicing to do.
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hey,
I am a Turkish.
I want to say some thinks about our pistols.If you like cz 75 series,I thing you must look sarsılmaz K2 or Kılınç 2000 and Canik 55 pistols.they are well pistols and cheaper then europa's pistol.but I thing Tisaş Zigana Sport is the best pistol of made from turkey.I thing you like it.please search it on google.if you write to google ''tisaş zigana sport'' you will see it.
I am a Turkish.
I want to say some thinks about our pistols.If you like cz 75 series,I thing you must look sarsılmaz K2 or Kılınç 2000 and Canik 55 pistols.they are well pistols and cheaper then europa's pistol.but I thing Tisaş Zigana Sport is the best pistol of made from turkey.I thing you like it.please search it on google.if you write to google ''tisaş zigana sport'' you will see it.
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