XavierBreath
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I read their explanation on the 1911 forum, and find it to be lacking. They will get no further business from me.
Dont give cheaperthandirt.com your creditcard number
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CTD
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Hello everyone!
I am the marketing director for Cheaper Than Dirt and I would like to clarify few things about 000Buck's post. This is largely repeated from a post on the 1911 board - and if you've already read that, bear with me.
Cheaper Than Dirt does not "automatically" transfer anyone's credit card #, email address or other personal information to anyone, period. Privacy is a very big issue and a major concern for us. Being the marketing guy for Cheaper Than Dirt, I'm the one responsible for privacy, and I'm also the one responsible for the link that 000Buck clicked on after he placed his order. When a customer has completed an order with us, they go to the order confirmation page. At the bottom of that page, there is a link to "claim a special reward." This link takes you to Reservation Rewards website where you are offered a $10 cash back coupon from your next purchase at Cheaper Than Dirt if you sign up for their program. Directly above the box where you enter your email address and click "YES" to sign up, there is a statement that reads: "By entering my email address as my electronic signature and clicking YES, I have read and agree to the Offer Details and authorize Cheaperthandirt.com to securely transfer my name, address and credit or debit card information to Reservation Rewards for billing and benefit processing." This being said, I would encourage all of you to never sign up for anything on the web without first reading and understanding what you are doing. I apologize if 000Buck feels he was misled in any way - it is not and was not our intent to mislead him. In reality, Reservation Rewards and their offer are legitimate - I'm a member myself. They are an upstanding business that will gladly refund any charges at any time. We at Cheaper Than Dirt have been working with them for over a year now and have never once had a bad experience. They realize they are dealing with our customers, and would never do anything to jeopardize that relationship. If any of you have had any negative experiences with them, please let us know. If you would like more clarification on this, please send me an email at [email protected].
Thanks for listening,
Jared Tanner
Dir. Marketing
Cheaper Than Dirt
I am the marketing director for Cheaper Than Dirt and I would like to clarify few things about 000Buck's post. This is largely repeated from a post on the 1911 board - and if you've already read that, bear with me.
Cheaper Than Dirt does not "automatically" transfer anyone's credit card #, email address or other personal information to anyone, period. Privacy is a very big issue and a major concern for us. Being the marketing guy for Cheaper Than Dirt, I'm the one responsible for privacy, and I'm also the one responsible for the link that 000Buck clicked on after he placed his order. When a customer has completed an order with us, they go to the order confirmation page. At the bottom of that page, there is a link to "claim a special reward." This link takes you to Reservation Rewards website where you are offered a $10 cash back coupon from your next purchase at Cheaper Than Dirt if you sign up for their program. Directly above the box where you enter your email address and click "YES" to sign up, there is a statement that reads: "By entering my email address as my electronic signature and clicking YES, I have read and agree to the Offer Details and authorize Cheaperthandirt.com to securely transfer my name, address and credit or debit card information to Reservation Rewards for billing and benefit processing." This being said, I would encourage all of you to never sign up for anything on the web without first reading and understanding what you are doing. I apologize if 000Buck feels he was misled in any way - it is not and was not our intent to mislead him. In reality, Reservation Rewards and their offer are legitimate - I'm a member myself. They are an upstanding business that will gladly refund any charges at any time. We at Cheaper Than Dirt have been working with them for over a year now and have never once had a bad experience. They realize they are dealing with our customers, and would never do anything to jeopardize that relationship. If any of you have had any negative experiences with them, please let us know. If you would like more clarification on this, please send me an email at [email protected].
Thanks for listening,
Jared Tanner
Dir. Marketing
Cheaper Than Dirt
patentnonsense
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Thanks to CTD for signing up and posting this.
As a longtime CTD customer, I still don't like this scam, and I would urge CTD to stop it.
I understand that you may not think of it as a scam, but I do - so perhaps you might consider your customers' viewpoints on this. I have been happy dealing with CTD over the years, but I don't like having little traps set for me - even though I didn't fall into this one.
As a longtime CTD customer, I still don't like this scam, and I would urge CTD to stop it.
I understand that you may not think of it as a scam, but I do - so perhaps you might consider your customers' viewpoints on this. I have been happy dealing with CTD over the years, but I don't like having little traps set for me - even though I didn't fall into this one.
Cosmoline
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That explains it, but I still question the marketing approach. I prefer to have a "clean" transaction with no add-on offers or special deals. It's too much like a gun store trying to sell you coupon books. Maybe it's legal but it leaves a bad, bad taste.
Bulldozer
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Got Hit Twice
I got hit with this garbage from both Cheaper Than Dirt AND Choice Hotels. Neither merchant will get any of my business now or in the future. I have also filed complaint with both the FTC's Consumer Portection Division and my State Attornery General's office.
I got hit with this garbage from both Cheaper Than Dirt AND Choice Hotels. Neither merchant will get any of my business now or in the future. I have also filed complaint with both the FTC's Consumer Portection Division and my State Attornery General's office.
CannibalCrowley
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All they're doing is providing people the opprotunity to sign up with a discount club. I see nothing wrong with the way it's presented. If you want to join, do so; if not, then don't sign up.
For those of you who "accidentally" signed up, you need to pay more attention and actually read the forms that you're filling out.
For those of you who "accidentally" signed up, you need to pay more attention and actually read the forms that you're filling out.
Lightsped
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Made numerous orders for cheaperthandirt. No problems whatsoever with my Credit Card or anything else.
I bought an Allen Gunrug from Cheaper than Dirt last year; with the shipping it wound up costing around $20.00; I bought the same Allen gunrug at WalMart a few months ago for $7.00. I now buy Allen gunrugs and most of my factory ammo at WalMart, or on sale at Dicks, and I would recommend most anyone do the same.
Regardless of what Mr. "CTD" says, if you type a credit card number into a website for a purchase, you are running the (excessive) risk of having that number intercepted and then misused for identity fraud. I will only do cc transactions over the phone using an "800" number,where I can talk to a customer service rep. Any online vendor that cannot accomodate me does not get my business, even if they are the cheapest!
Regardless of what Mr. "CTD" says, if you type a credit card number into a website for a purchase, you are running the (excessive) risk of having that number intercepted and then misused for identity fraud. I will only do cc transactions over the phone using an "800" number,where I can talk to a customer service rep. Any online vendor that cannot accomodate me does not get my business, even if they are the cheapest!
>>All they're doing is providing people the opprotunity to sign up with a >>discount club. I see nothing wrong with the way it's presented. If you >>want to join, do so; if not, then don't sign up.
Yes, that is true, they are offering this opportunity, but in a sneaky way. People shouldnt have a $10 off coupon flashing in their face, with tiny fine print saying if they go for the $10 coupon they are going to pay $7 a month for some worthless discount club, automatically billed directly to their credit card. I dont remember clicking on anything, and I definitely didnt put my email address into a box or fill anything out.
The point is, if people are being misled into joining this $7 a month discount club like I was and the 1911forum guy was, they should make it more obvious what is going on, or remove it, it is coming off as a scam. I would never expect to buy stuff from a gun site then have some completely unrelated discount club ripoff enroll me on a mistake I made by clicking on the wrong thing. If I wanted to enroll in a discount club, I would go to Sams or Costco.
>>For those of you who "accidentally" signed up, you need to pay more >>attention and actually read the forms that you're filling out.
Thats kindof my point, if I am buying something from a reputable store, I shouldnt have to worry about accidently clicking on the wrong thing, thus getting enrolled in a recurring charge on my CC. If you think there is nothing wrong with it, great, keep shopping there. I dont want to buy ammo from a store that acts like a car dealership, trying to trick me into buying something I dont need, and is worthless. CTD should not pass credit card information to another website for a completely unrelated product, period.
Yes, that is true, they are offering this opportunity, but in a sneaky way. People shouldnt have a $10 off coupon flashing in their face, with tiny fine print saying if they go for the $10 coupon they are going to pay $7 a month for some worthless discount club, automatically billed directly to their credit card. I dont remember clicking on anything, and I definitely didnt put my email address into a box or fill anything out.
The point is, if people are being misled into joining this $7 a month discount club like I was and the 1911forum guy was, they should make it more obvious what is going on, or remove it, it is coming off as a scam. I would never expect to buy stuff from a gun site then have some completely unrelated discount club ripoff enroll me on a mistake I made by clicking on the wrong thing. If I wanted to enroll in a discount club, I would go to Sams or Costco.
>>For those of you who "accidentally" signed up, you need to pay more >>attention and actually read the forms that you're filling out.
Thats kindof my point, if I am buying something from a reputable store, I shouldnt have to worry about accidently clicking on the wrong thing, thus getting enrolled in a recurring charge on my CC. If you think there is nothing wrong with it, great, keep shopping there. I dont want to buy ammo from a store that acts like a car dealership, trying to trick me into buying something I dont need, and is worthless. CTD should not pass credit card information to another website for a completely unrelated product, period.
Lord Grey Boots
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I order from CTD fairly often. I have had no problems. I don't sign up for anything I don't want.
Realistically, its far more dangerous to give your credit card to someone at a gas station or restaurant than to order online with a credit card from a real company.
CTD's way of handling this deal is upfront and honest, but you need to pay attention.
I found TIME magazine and Money magazine to be far worst, they send you unordered books, then send you a bill for them.
Realistically, its far more dangerous to give your credit card to someone at a gas station or restaurant than to order online with a credit card from a real company.
CTD's way of handling this deal is upfront and honest, but you need to pay attention.
I found TIME magazine and Money magazine to be far worst, they send you unordered books, then send you a bill for them.
GMAN
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I had the exact same thing happen to me at Cheaper than Dirt, I will never order from them again.
XavierBreath
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It would have been so easy for CTD to simply say "We appreciate your business and have removed the link. We hope to retain your future patronage."
Justifying an unwanted revolving charge to a customer's credit card is a difficult chore, no doubt. Sometimes it's simply easier to just stand up and say doggone it we were wrong, and we've fixed it. My business will go elsewhere not because of the scam, but the BS justification for it. If they can find justification for the first scam, they can find justification for the next.
Nice try CTD, but no cigar.
Justifying an unwanted revolving charge to a customer's credit card is a difficult chore, no doubt. Sometimes it's simply easier to just stand up and say doggone it we were wrong, and we've fixed it. My business will go elsewhere not because of the scam, but the BS justification for it. If they can find justification for the first scam, they can find justification for the next.
Nice try CTD, but no cigar.
CTD does shady deals like this all the time. They buy other domain names similiar to their competetion so you are directed to CTD's site when you misspell the site name. The aren't cheap on new items and they sell alot of surplus made in china junk.
Military antiques isn't worth the trip unless you want to buy odd/old surplus ammo or are into C&R stuff. Good prices on Wolf though, think they had the new stuff when I was in there a couple months ago.
Military antiques isn't worth the trip unless you want to buy odd/old surplus ammo or are into C&R stuff. Good prices on Wolf though, think they had the new stuff when I was in there a couple months ago.
StuporDave
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I buy a few things from CTD. Never had a problem witheir service. I saw the link in question a couple of times. I clicked on the "get your reward" button ( or whatever it said) the first time. I read the offer, wasn't interested, and declined it.
I you accepted the offer without reading what it was about, how is that CDT's fault?
Read the details on ANY offer on the internet before you accept it. It's only common sense. Companies will find a way to get to your money.
My standard reply to telemarketers used to be "send me the info in writing". It made most of them go away. When they actually sent something, it went in the trash unopened. Untill they got me.
Some kind of car club offer through/sponsored by my credit card company. Told them I wasn't interested, but send me the info in writing and I'd look it over. Got the info in the mail, threw it away. Got a $60 charge on my CC statement. Apparently the written info said If you don't cancel by such and such a date, we assume you want it and we'll charge your credit card for it. (offer was throught the CC company, they already had the info).
If there are words there, read them. If you don't, whose fault is that?
I you accepted the offer without reading what it was about, how is that CDT's fault?
Read the details on ANY offer on the internet before you accept it. It's only common sense. Companies will find a way to get to your money.
My standard reply to telemarketers used to be "send me the info in writing". It made most of them go away. When they actually sent something, it went in the trash unopened. Untill they got me.
Some kind of car club offer through/sponsored by my credit card company. Told them I wasn't interested, but send me the info in writing and I'd look it over. Got the info in the mail, threw it away. Got a $60 charge on my CC statement. Apparently the written info said If you don't cancel by such and such a date, we assume you want it and we'll charge your credit card for it. (offer was throught the CC company, they already had the info).
If there are words there, read them. If you don't, whose fault is that?
Preacherman
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OK, folks, I think we've done this one to death. We've heard from injured parties and satisfied parties, and CTD has been kind enough to register and post here in an attempt to clear up any confusion. Let's leave it at that - and those who wish to can go on shopping at CTD, while those who don't can go elsewhere.
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